Webley Pistols

[Amit357]

India must be great place for Metallurgy,even after 40 years of ban in Imports,WEAPONS still turn up in PRISTINE condition,and they are just with Dealers,would love to see the vacuum chambers the DEALERS have.

Amit there are actually weapons endorsed on licenses which have never been used in 30-40 years and have been maintained very well, I had a chance to come across a FN model 1922 which was bought in mid 70s with the original receipt in the name of the gentleman who was the single owner and in his license there were 25 bullets that was issued and he had all of them intact that was something remarkable holding on to a gun for forty years and never fired it..

Ramandeep,my point states on the number of pristine weapons with dealers not individuals,i have a 32 Long Astra revolver which is 1920 Model, a Winchester Mod 70,1937 made,both are in fantastic condition,i still never say NIB,with dealers the ans is Dabba Bhi hai,no wonder some ingenious guy in OLD DELHI started a unit, Manufacturing Dabba's of S&W,Webley etc,etc & the guy is doing amazing business

[Amit357]

My mum has a Webley revolver. Very sturdily built. It's been with her since my parents married, and that's talking of a long way!

But the pistols are utter crap. I've fired some of these and they are notoriously inaccurate, flimsily built and the ergonomics are, well, they aren't there..... Wouldn't rely on one. Rather crudely made. More like 'kattas'.

Hi Katana,plz remember these were made in 1940-50 copied from 1900 designs,that time they were state of Art,till weapons were being imported in India,Webley were producing,they stopped production soon after 1984,didnt need much R & D selling stuff to there slave colony ,Best Amit P.S back then it was a Status Symbol to own {as a member stated here} Bebbly 32 Revolver Webley 12 Bore Shotgun and Brno 22,Model 1-2

[Katana]

Amit, pretty much agree with you. In fact I once told an uncle of mine who has a Webley pistol to change it. Go in for a IOF and tweak it for his own use. But no, it's a Webley! Never mind that the pistol jams most of the time it's fired.

[Amit357]

. But no, it's a Webley! Never mind that the pistol jams most of the time it's fired.

Hi Katana,see the problem with High end Pistols like Webley ,is that they are very finicky regarding ammo,saw the same issue with a KORTH and recently a GLOCK,say the same problems with BDA in 380,tell the owner of the Pistol to buy GOOD S&B or some other Eastern European ammo and see the Pistol work flawlessly or tell him to buy P+ ammo once for all and then i am sure he will migrate to IOF. .Best A Amit

[BowMan]

OLD DELHI started a unit, Manufacturing Dabba's of S&W,Webley etc,etc & the guy is doing amazing business

This business runs like hot cakes in west Delhi too

[BowMan]

had a chance to come across a FN model 1922 which was bought in mid 70s with the original receipt in the name of the gentleman who was the single owner and in his license there were 25 bullets that was issued and he had all of them intact that was something remarkable holding on to a gun for forty years and never fired it..

Indeed. Akin to having a very beautiful wife but never....you get the idea...

[Ramandeep]

Personally I feel Webley pistols and revolvers are one of the shittiest ever made lousy an very unappealing,

Ramandeep , what make you think like this?can you explain this for all of us?


Baljit

Firstly Baljit Paaji I would like to state that what i stated above was my personal opinion only rather than anything solely derived from facts and figures. For me the the biggest turn off on a revolver would be the top break mechanism which is almost synonymous with a webley revolver and that would be the biggest deterrent for me to ever buy a Webley. IF we compare the revolvers made in the same era say like colt I believe it was very well crafted and beautifully made and they had far more personality than webleys anyways the webley revolvers were considered reliable and was a standard army issue the mark 4 model. But dont you think a revolver with the right basic mechanism and good quality material would always perform well something which our beloved IOF have achieved by copying the webley. I seriously feel the success of webley was actually driven by expanse of the British Raj than by its own character since it was a standard issue to the British Empire which was virtually present in almost all of the continents at that time.

Now if we talk about the Webley pistols I seriously doubt their reliability. It really doesnt even stand a chance being compared to other pistols of the same era say like Colt which had made one of the finest pistols in the early 20th century which was far more reliable and accurate in its time same was FN browning as it was the same designer, Beretta is another fine example of reliable pistols, Luger(my favourite) is the best pistol that was made in that era I would say till date. So in this extraordinary league I would not even compare a webley pistol which is not at all reliable. The science of accuracy is more prevalent in the pistols than revolvers.

But Webley have made good shotguns true to its nature very english and efficient well crafted I have come across a few webley scott shotguns also own a one couldnt really find a fault at them. I remember having a discussion with a retired army gentleman who was an avid gun enthusiasts as well saying me that Webley Scott has name as a popular firearm manufacturer but it is the shotgun which makes the Webleys desirable.


Raman

[Ramandeep]

had a chance to come across a FN model 1922 which was bought in mid 70s with the original receipt in the name of the gentleman who was the single owner and in his license there were 25 bullets that was issued and he had all of them intact that was something remarkable holding on to a gun for forty years and never fired it..

Indeed. Akin to having a very beautiful wife but never....you get the idea...

Indeed man resisting from good things in life is a serious crime. One of my uncle after a couple of drinks had said to me these wonderful lines, "Beta khaane ki cheez kha leni chahiye, peene ki cheez pi leni chahiye aur istamal ki cheez ko istamal kar lena chahiye kyunki sirf paisa hi jamaa hota hai aur zayadad hi sambhali jaati baaki sab bemaani hai" so cheeerrss for the good things in life

[Baljit]

Ramandeep

I agree with you on shotgun but on Rev.I am not agree with you because this is the first time, I ever hard from some one and also this is only your opinion not any body else.My dad used to have one in 38S&W in India but its long gone now because my dad is no more, but he had it for at least 30 years or so and never had a problem, even I have one for my self as well here in Canada. Never had a problem with it.

Webley Mk I service revolver was adopted back in 1887 and serve the Boer War of 1899–1902, Webley Mk V adopted in first world war in 9 December 1913,official service pistol for the British military during the Second World War, after the Second World War, The Webley Mk VI (.455) and Mk IV (.38/200) revolvers were still issued to British and Commonwealth Forces and Hong Kong Police and Royal Singaporean Police were issued Webley Mk III & Mk IV .38/200 revolvers from the 1930.

Here is more info....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webley_Revolver

Now do you think webley, who serve in the wars and use by police are junk? I don't think so.Even IOF making a copy of webley. Do you think IOF making a junk? I want you to go through the link above and then think about your opinion.

Here is my webley, made back in Nov.1940 and still looks like new also very tight action and it's war finish Rev.





Baljit

[Terminator-X]

Truly an excellent revolver you've got Baljit. A rare piece, Cheers

[winnie_the_pooh]

Webley made nice revolvers BUT I would avoid their automatic pistols.They are well made but the those responsible for the design probably had never fired the pistol.The grip angle is all wrong.It uses V springs that can and do fail.

[Ramandeep]

Ramandeep



Here is more info....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webley_Revolver

Now do you think webley, who serve in the wars and use by police are junk? I don't think so.

Baljit

As I said earlier Paaji what I stated before is biased by my own personal choice than anything related more with facts and figures. But wouldnt you agree that the British Raj at that time being so mighty and powerful helped the webley become a cult revolver among the gun enthusiast. As I mentioned earlier with the right mechanism and right material a revolver would always perform good any given day.


Raman

[Amit357]

Ramandeep



Here is more info....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webley_Revolver

Now do you think webley, who serve in the wars and use by police are junk? I don't think so.

Baljit

As I said earlier Paaji what I stated before is biased by my own personal choice than anything related more with facts and figures.. As I mentioned earlier with the right mechanism and right material a revolver would always perform good any given day.

Baljit sorry to barge in,for the time Webleys were made they were state of Art, you talk about Boer War,that time they were the best,but since Browning developed the 1911 & Lugers,Mausers etc,etc,Webley could not keep up,cause the product was selling,I wont go much by your comment of the quality of weaponry with Armed forces specially in the sub-continent,they still use 303s and these are give to Chaps in VDFs in Naxalite and other Militancy areas,the blokes on the other side are having AKs and RPGs,our armed forces carry 5.56s which Jam,US special forces had come for an exercise in India,and there weapons didnt cycle the ammo issued to them by IOF,the local Thula's carry 38s which they have never fired,only weaponry in India which is state of art at present is with either SPG or NSG cause there job is to protect the V V V I Ps,and i am willing to be called whatever if you can show me a Webley either in the 38 or 455 with them.Here the life of a common citizen whom the local THULA may or may not protect is cheaper then a LAB. Best Amit

[miroflex]

Thanks for all the responses came out. These are well maintained weapons. The Pistol with wooden grips is an unused one, The one with bakelite grips is used but in original condition. Same for the revolver. None of these weapons are blued again. The inprints are intact. These weapons are the cheapest you can find now

Hello,

Could you let us know the calibres of these weapons and their prices please?

Regards.

[Baljit]

Amit357
since 1911 was developed, non of Rev. keep up 1911,no matter its made by S&W,Ruger or even Colt, but it's not mean they are junk.They work just fine in market.I do not have any experience with Webley pistol but i do have a lot's of experience with Webley Rev.

I shoot my dad's Webley in my childhood age and i still have that.If you read Remndeep's post he write this " Personally I feel Webley pistols and revolvers are one of the shittiest ever made lousy an very unappealing".

Now i am asking you did he or did he not write " Revolvers" in his post? I am not going to post anything if he write about Webley pistol.

Personally, i am not a big fan of Rev. but i have a two of them also it's not mean i don't know anything about Rev. Also i did not said Webley Rev. still used by any army or police.I write it WAS used by army and police.

If you are talking about 1911, then i am the biggest fan of 1911. i do have a five of them in my safe from .45ACP to .22LR calibers and i can go with 1911 with any day over the Rev.

Baljit