Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

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Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Post by subhroinindia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:45 am

I was reading on the Smith and Wesson Special Edition 60.38 Snub nosed revolver and had certain doubts -

i. the cartridge that it seems to use is the .38 rimmed centerfire. As per Category I (c) of the Arms Rules, any pistol that can chamber a rimmed .38 cartridge is a PB (Read the Arms Rules in addition to the MHA Notification http://mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=538 which says that I(c) of Arms rules Schedule I mentions PB's )

Now I am getting a bit confused by something - I saw a previous thread which is saying that the .38 is an NPB.

Could someone please provide a conclusive answer to this? Is a Smith and Wesson 60.38 capable of chambering .38 rimmed cartridges as is prohibited under the Arms Act?

ii. Can a person get a Glock .38 in India with an NPB license?

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Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Post by subhroinindia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:52 am

Another small question in addition to this - what cartridges can be used with a smith and wesson 60.38 ? and is there a difference between a .380 and .38 caliber . This Times of India report calls a .38 prohibited but a .380 as NPB http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... es-weapons

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Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Post by Vikram » Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:59 am

.380 rimmed ammunition which is used in revolvers is PB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_S%26W

.380 ACP,Automatic Colt Pistol, which is used in semi-automatic pistols is NPB.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.380_ACP

The key here is that .38 revolvers are issued to the police forces and hence they are categorised as PB. The .380 ACP is not, hence it is NPB.


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Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Post by subhroinindia » Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:24 am

Dear Vikram,

Thanks for the reply,

My query remains that - Since a Smith and Wesson 60.38 uses .38 Rimmed cartridges, it is illegal to hold such a weapon in India right?
If yes I was actually a bit confused by some of #mundaire's posts - where he mentioned that a .38Spl is an NPB? How? (If I am constructing .38 Spl to be right then it is the S&W .38 Spl)

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Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Post by Baljit » Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:40 am

There is difference between 38 S&W/.380 acp and 38 Special.
As far as i know that 38 S&W is under PB in India but not 38 Special.

Here is a link for 38 S&W....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_S%26W

Here ia a link for 38 Special....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_Special

It not make any sence for me, why 38 S&W/.380 is under PB in India? but 38 Special is more powerful then 38 S&W?


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Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Post by Vikram » Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:07 am

subhroinindia wrote:Dear Vikram,

Thanks for the reply,

My query remains that - Since a Smith and Wesson 60.38 uses .38 Rimmed cartridges, it is illegal to hold such a weapon in India right?
If yes I was actually a bit confused by some of #mundaire's posts - where he mentioned that a .38Spl is an NPB? How? (If I am constructing .38 Spl to be right then it is the S&W .38 Spl)
You need to pay attention to the "details." A .38 S&W rimmed is not illegal. You require a PB licence for that.

.38 Special is not PB. .38 Special is different from .38 S&W rimmed and .380 ACP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_Special

Go through the links posted and the differences become clear to you.

Any particular reason for this interest in the .38 calibre?

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Re: Smith and Wesson 60.38 Special Edition

Post by xl_target » Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:44 am

Baljit wrote:There is difference between 38 S&W/.380 acp and 38 Special.
As far as i know that 38 S&W is under PB in India but not 38 Special.

Here is a link for 38 S&W....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_S%26W

Here ia a link for 38 Special....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_Special

It not make any sence for me, why 38 S&W/.380 is under PB in India? but 38 Special is more powerful then 38 S&W?


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It is not a question of whether a cartridge is more powerful that determines its classification as PB or NPB.
It is my understanding that if government forces (police/army, etc) use the cartridge, it is classified as PB.
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