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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by Bhargav » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:56 am

DOM wrote:
Bhargav wrote:wow DOM, I am jealous and I totally support gun laws in Pakistan.

Ha ha ha.

Yes the gun laws is pakistan not too hard.

People are fond of guns.
Collectors, hunters, home defence, self defence, sports, range shooting.
well I am not "that" jealous as long as I am in the US .. heck we can shoot a .50 cal here :P but when I go back to India, I will be triple jealous :D

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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by DOM » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:03 am

Bhargav wrote:
DOM wrote:
Bhargav wrote:wow DOM, I am jealous and I totally support gun laws in Pakistan.

Ha ha ha.

Yes the gun laws is pakistan not too hard.

People are fond of guns.
Collectors, hunters, home defence, self defence, sports, range shooting.
well I am not "that" jealous as long as I am in the US .. heck we can shoot a .50 cal here :P but when I go back to India, I will be triple jealous :D
Specially for you.
A detailed about gun laws of Pakistan.

There are two kinds of Arms Licenses issued in our country, i.e NPB and PB. NPB being non prohibitted bore and PB being prohibited bore..
Minimum age limit for any one to acquire a license to my understanding is 18 years

In NBP category on could get the following calibre weapons:
9mm, 0.45, 32, .30, 0.22, 12 gauge etc

An NPB bore license could be acquired from Ministry of Interior , Islamabad ( Our capital city). The applicant who acquires these MOI licenses, could travel with their weapons in a concealed manner all over Pakistan.

There is another issuing authority for NPB Licenses, i.e provincial licenses, which are issued by the provinical interior ministy/Home Department. However licenses issued by the provincial authorities are restriceted to travel with their weapon in that province only.

Now the PB category covers all sort of prohibted bore calibres , specially Auto rifles of following calibres, 222,223, 7.62 etc.

The PB liceses is very hard to acquire in our country and one has to go through maternity pains, to get one. This includes, detailed background checks, verification reports etc.

How to apply ?

Applications for arms licenses could be obatined from relevent web sites of the concerend ministries. One has to attach 4 passport size pictures, proof of residence and a copy of National Identity card.

In order to carry weapons, when there are high security alerts, the home department of every province issues special carry permits, issued for a period of 30,60 and 90 days.
The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose

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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by DOM » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:11 am

If allow?
Then i m ready to upload the pics of my nine mm, holsters, bullets.

If not?? Then....Oookk no problem.
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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by Bhargav » Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:19 am

wow, a license once issued, a person can conceal carry the firearm all over the country. And we here need an all india permit to carry it outside the state it was issued in?. I would say, you guys really got "independent" after the partition :D

"A picture is worth thousand words", pls upload the pics

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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by xl_target » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:52 am

Thank you DOM for posting a synopsis of your rules and regulations.
Please do post photo of your guns. Looking forward to seeing them.
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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by DOM » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:53 pm

Bhargav wrote:wow, a license once issued, a person can conceal carry the firearm all over the country. And we here need an all india permit to carry it outside the state it was issued in?. I would say, you guys really got "independent" after the partition :D

"A picture is worth thousand words", pls upload the pics

@ Bhargav Specially for you...


My Newly purchased Stoger Cougar 9mm Made In Turkey
Magazine Capacity = 15 Rounds
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Here my CZ P01 Made In Czech Republic
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and My Russian Baikal MP-446
magazine Capacity 18 Rounds
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now its time for shotgun

My semi Auto Russian Vepr 12 MOLOT with extended magazine of 10 rounds (AK Style)
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hope you like,,,, more pictures of others weapon will upload soon.
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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by amitkj » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:02 pm

Hey DOM,

With all due respect to our nation, I say that, This is the first time I feel to be in Pakistan atleast to fulfill my hobby. After reading your country's laws I feel that you people are living in a real democracy rather we Indians. In India, democracy is limited upto electing a govt only. Laws are always made by some stupid, narrow-minded, orthodox people who assume themselves as the Masters/Experts of laws. No consideration is given to the views of general public once any law/amendments to an existing law is passed in Parliament.

Hello....... Indian Gun Enthusiasts.......... Are we really living in democratic nation....... Think twice/thrice & then answer.

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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by Bhargav » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:35 pm

DOM,

I have 3 words for you. "oh" "my" "god".
I love the CZ, baikal with 18 rounds mag capacity !!! Nice.

How expensive is the ammunition though?

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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by DOM » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:59 pm

Bhargav wrote:DOM,

I have 3 words for you. "oh" "my" "god".
I love the CZ, baikal with 18 rounds mag capacity !!! Nice.

How expensive is the ammunition though?
@ bhargav.
Dont like my russian semi auto shotgun ??

Well below is the list of prices. All are in PKR.

.22 bullet @ 20 each
.30 bullet @ 25 each local made
.30 bullet @ 30 each chinese make ( very famous)
.32 bullet @ 35 each local
.32 bullet @ 40 each chinese
9mm bullet @ 45 each chinese make ( very famous)
9mm bullet @ 50 each local made
9mm bullet @ 60 each philpine made
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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by Bhargav » Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:15 pm

DOM wrote:
Bhargav wrote:DOM,

I have 3 words for you. "oh" "my" "god".
I love the CZ, baikal with 18 rounds mag capacity !!! Nice.

How expensive is the ammunition though?
@ bhargav.
Dont like my russian semi auto shotgun ??

Well below is the list of prices. All are in PKR.

.22 bullet @ 20 each
.30 bullet @ 25 each local made
.30 bullet @ 30 each chinese make ( very famous)
.32 bullet @ 35 each local
.32 bullet @ 40 each chinese
9mm bullet @ 45 each chinese make ( very famous)
9mm bullet @ 50 each local made
9mm bullet @ 60 each philpine made
Oh yes, the shotgun is a beauty too :D
Well the ammo prices are pretty much like India but the good thing is, foreign made ammo is available easily.

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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:37 pm

amitkj,

If you measure democracy by your ability to own guns,I would suggest you move to Afghanistan or Somalia.Those countries are really democratic :roll:

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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by Vineet » Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:40 pm

Bhargav wrote: Well the ammo prices are pretty much like India but the good thing is, foreign made ammo is available easily.
Bhargav, where in India do we get ammo at that price?
Here, .30 pistol rounds are for around Rs.125 each and .32 rounds are for Rs.90 each.
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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by grewal » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:46 pm

Well some of my Indian friends are a bit tempted by Pakistan Gun laws.
amitkj wrote: This is the first time I feel to be in Pakistan atleast to fulfill my hobby
Bhargav wrote:wow DOM, I am jealous and I totally support gun laws in Pakistan.
I have been to Pakistan once few years back. At that time I could see men with ak's hanging on their shoulders every where. I happen to ask one of those men that what is the cost of the gun and he prompted Rs-10K including licence.
I mean no disrespect to our Pakistani friend on IFG
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Talking about the gun laws prevailing in Pakistan. There are almost no gun rules in majority of the Pakistan except for a few cities/states. Few years back during Parvez Musharraf's regime there was a huge crackdown on the people possessing illegal arms and ammunition . Then again it was in those areas which are controlled by govt sitting in Islamabad. Whereas majority of Sindh, North Western Frontiers and Waziristan are governed by warlords.
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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by airgun_novice » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:12 pm

Welcome DOM. Look forward to your contributions. Are you into air weapon target shooting or firerms ? Either way Good Luck.
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Re: From Karachi, Pakistan.

Post by DOM » Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:25 pm

grewal wrote:Well some of my Indian friends are a bit tempted by Pakistan Gun laws.
amitkj wrote: This is the first time I feel to be in Pakistan atleast to fulfill my hobby
Bhargav wrote:wow DOM, I am jealous and I totally support gun laws in Pakistan.
I have been to Pakistan once few years back. At that time I could see men with ak's hanging on their shoulders every where. I happen to ask one of those men that what is the cost of the gun and he prompted Rs-10K including licence.
I mean no disrespect to our Pakistani friend on IFG
But In comparison to the living standard between both countries , we are living in heaven.

Talking about the gun laws prevailing in Pakistan. There are almost no gun rules in majority of the Pakistan except for a few cities/states. Few years back during Parvez Musharraf's regime there was a huge crackdown on the people possessing illegal arms and ammunition . Then again it was in those areas which are controlled by govt sitting in Islamabad. Whereas majority of Sindh, North Western Frontiers and Waziristan are governed by warlords.
i think must kidding about ak with license in 10K,
for ak permits one needs solid connections in government and cost atleast 100 to 150 K (ONLY PERMIT)
local made aks price starting from 40 K, so the imported ones are starting from 150 K

and i dont want to comments on our and your government policies, gun rules in our and your country, i think better we discuss about guns not on countries and policies.
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