Indians For Guns

...Whao...chill out Inder..no need to be so touchy....I was only taking a friendly pot shot at Mack The Knife!...I did not mean to be sarcastic at all...just tickled by the words"Mack The Knife sir " .............

mundaire";p="13590 wrote:Dev,

Does this 20k limit include postage? Or is the exemption on the price of the gun alone?
Would be very interested to know, as I am seriously contemplating ordering some "goodies"!
Cheers!
Abhijeet

Abhijeet,

The exemption limit in question is applicable to articles of personal use which a returning Indian can bring along under Baggage Rules; in person. This was formulated to exempt used articles from customs duty. The limit is Rs. 25000/- for Europe / America and Rs. 12000 for Gulf Countries ( with a little margin of error by me).

Use of courier / post will fall under import and not baggage rules and hence the exemption won't apply. This is the situation under the existing regulations.

To give you and approximate idea , you can expect this scenario in case you import an HW 77 K from BAR :--

......................................................................................................

Price as mentioned in BAR website GBP 269
Less VAT ( 269 is including VAT @17.5%) GBP 40

Cost GBP 229
Insurance GBP 7
Freight GBP 84

CIF Value ( Cost, Insurance & Freight) GBP 320

Customs duty @ 35% on CIF Value GBP 112

Landed Cost ( CIF + Customs duty) GBP 432

In Indian Rupees @ today's exchange rate Rs. 37145/-
of 86 Rs./ GBP

....................................................................................................

The killer is the freight and the proportionate customs duty. You may find out
the postage from US based sites like www.pyramydair.com ( they ship to India if paid through wire transfer). Just select an item, fill up your address etc and complete upto that stage which shows you the postage. If I remember correctly, the postage for an HW AR is appx $ 100.

Hops this is of help to you.

Hey thanks for the detailed post Sujay! Yep! you are right - the freight is a real killer! Tried to bypass that by asking a couple of people to do the needful while returning to India... been ditched both times, so now have put things on hold till I can make a trip myself...

Coming back to the duty exemption bit - I think there is some exemption on items ordered by post as well... IIRC Dev did not have to pay any duty on his IZH Biakal air-pistol... so was wondering how postal customs calculated the exemption limit for that....

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Excellent post, Sujay!

Thanks.

Mack The Knife

Kanwar Sir thanks for the understanding


regarding your quote
"
my D52 for 17K and there was one D35 was available for 12K.. to buy or not to buy is a different question altogether.... "

-Inder

Is D35 for 12 k still available?

Hi Sushila,

Although Inder mentioned that the D35 was a second hand airgun,if its in good condition then the price mentioned is a steal!
I just picked up a diana 35 brand new in .177 cal for 22000 inr in Mumbai.I think it was purchased in Dubai!,where they are still available brand new.

Happy shooting!

Warm regards//Clary

Sir regarding your post

"
I just picked up a diana 35 brand new in .177 cal for 22000 inr in Mumbai.I think it was purchased in Dubai!,where they are still available brand new. "

Sir could you please give the address of the dealer and phone no. and/or price of Diana Panther 31

Will be grateful to you for that.

Sujay";p="13616 wrote:

mundaire";p="13590 wrote:Dev,

Does this 20k limit include postage? Or is the exemption on the price of the gun alone?
Would be very interested to know, as I am seriously contemplating ordering some "goodies"!
Cheers!
Abhijeet

Abhijeet,

The exemption limit in question is applicable to articles of personal use which a returning Indian can bring along under Baggage Rules; in person. This was formulated to exempt used articles from customs duty. The limit is Rs. 25000/- for Europe / America and Rs. 12000 for Gulf Countries ( with a little margin of error by me).

Use of courier / post will fall under import and not baggage rules and hence the exemption won't apply. This is the situation under the existing regulations.

To give you and approximate idea , you can expect this scenario in case you import an HW 77 K from BAR :--

......................................................................................................

Price as mentioned in BAR website GBP 269
Less VAT ( 269 is including VAT @17.5%) GBP 40

Cost GBP 229
Insurance GBP 7
Freight GBP 84

CIF Value ( Cost, Insurance & Freight) GBP 320

Customs duty @ 35% on CIF Value GBP 112

Landed Cost ( CIF + Customs duty) GBP 432

In Indian Rupees @ today's exchange rate Rs. 37145/-
of 86 Rs./ GBP

....................................................................................................

The killer is the freight and the proportionate customs duty. You may find out
the postage from US based sites like www.pyramydair.com ( they ship to India if paid through wire transfer). Just select an item, fill up your address etc and complete upto that stage which shows you the postage. If I remember correctly, the postage for an HW AR is appx $ 100.

Hops this is of help to you.

I hope no dealer is reading this...

-Inder

sushila81";p="13638 wrote:Kanwar Sir thanks for the understanding


regarding your quote
"
my D52 for 17K and there was one D35 was available for 12K.. to buy or not to buy is a different question altogether.... "

-Inder

Is D35 for 12 k still available?

Hi Sushila,

I don't know its still available or not. Its been almost 2 years since i talked with the guy who was selling this.

-Inder

sushila81";p="13665 wrote:Sir regarding your post

"
I just picked up a diana 35 brand new in .177 cal for 22000 inr in Mumbai.I think it was purchased in Dubai!,where they are still available brand new. "

Sir could you please give the address of the dealer and phone no. and/or price of Diana Panther 31

Will be grateful to you for that.

Well Sushila,

If your budget is extendable upto 25k, then I know a dealer in Indore who has a brand new Diana 27 for that price. I saw the gun with him when I went to his shop last - that was in December. He should still have it. Go through the dealers section of this board, find "firearms dealerships - central India". The last dealer mentioned there - "Banduk Bhandar" is the one.

regards
Vivek

Hi Sushila,
I purchased the diana thru a friend who knows this person who brings in these airguns!Will send u a PM with his contact in Mumbai.About the dealer in Dubai,I think u best get in touch with Shahid as he is updated on the scene out there.The last time I was in dubai the dealer Al sayad quoted me DHS 785 for both the Diana 35 and the Panther 31...but maybe you could stike a bargain with him,and lower the price a bit.

Ciao....

Sir, I will be grateful to you for providing your Mumbai contact to me.

kanwar76";p="13689 wrote: I hope no dealer is reading this...

-Inder

You are right Inder. In fact I had the same apprehension after arriving at the final figure. But went ahead as people buying airguns from dealers are very few.