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If there is no bear trap, I would have no fingers in my hand to load a pellet.That much time the autofire happened. I tried so many options to correct the problem but I can't succeed.Also the manufacturer is reluctant to resolve the issue, as their job of selling their product is over. So I decided to not do this type of experiment of buying an unreviewed product in future.

vsraja wrote:If there is no bear trap, I would have no fingers in my hand to load a pellet.That much time the autofire happened. I tried so many options to correct the problem but I can't succeed.Also the manufacturer is reluctant to resolve the issue, as their job of selling their product is over. So I decided to not do this type of experiment of buying an unreviewed product in future.

vsraja, a gun that auto fires will continue to do so , it is a fault in engineering and design. I have had the gd 600, for 3 years now, I have spend Rs 6k on repairs of a 4.8k gun, and repaired couple of times free by retailer. After learning to disassemble springers, I have changed , piston, trigger spring, mainspring, entire trigger kit, now the entire guns internals are new, and guess what, it still auto fires suddenly in the midst of shooting session.The only fruitful purpose this gun served me is that it taught me to disassemble springers. I have retired the gun.
I am glad to hear that you are uninjured, I had nearly lost my left hand index finger due to auto firing of the gd-600.

vsraja wrote:A request to the members was dont buy this rifle. This rifle gave me lots of trouble.One of the serious problem was ''autofire''. After inspecting the piston rod i came to know that it was made of mild steel. I never seen a piston rod made of mild steel.Because of that, it was scratched each time by the trigger when it was cocked and fired.I also got(purchased) a replacement piston from tommy.but the problem was not resolved. I am wondering how talented the manufacturer is.Its up to you if you still needs to buy it.But i wont recommend the product from this manufacturer.

Sorry for the late reply, i needed this time to confirm that this product was not worth for the money paid.

glad to know that you and people around you are safe, better to stick with break barrels and products from organized sector.

What is this anti bear trap mechanism ?
Any foto to explain this ?

Basu

Basu wrote:What is this anti bear trap mechanism ?
Any foto to explain this ?

Basu

Basuda, the anti bear trap mechanism is a mechanism that prevents the firing of the gun when the sliding breech is open and the side or under lever is in cocked position.
This prevents the damage to ones fingers when one inserts his finger inside the breech to load a pellet. It is just an additional safety measure, especially for guns like the tommy which autofires .

I have attached the drawing which explains bear trap in tommy.The small lever will automatically enter the receiver and engages when the rifle is cocked.The lever stays outside the receiver because of the compression chamber. When the compression chamber moves backward while cocking,the lever engages at the front of the compression chamber and will stop the compression chamber moving forward if any accidental release is caused while loading a pellet.After loading the pellet, a button under the stock is to be pressed to release the trap and close the compression chamber.Always there is a chance of failure of this safety mechanism also.So regularly have to check that trap mechanism and its spring tension to ensure the proper engagement each time without failure,which cost your finger.

Thanks to vsraja, i managed to get hold of a sidelever couple of weeks ago from the same source. It's not a Tommy, coz i was advised not to get it by the dealer itself. He suggested a Daw's Luna at 2k extra but he never mentioned the auto fire issues, all he promised was a better finish & build with the luna. Now i know why he did so. Infact i got it in hand more than a week ago & now awaiting mod, so had no plans to post it here just yet. I haven't shot a lot through it yet but i recommend this one. It's not the nicest finish, cocking is hard, trigger is hard enough but the note is a solid thwak with no felt vibrations. Guess that's fair enough for a stock local AR. Long term reliability/auto-fire vulnerability unknown at the moment but dealer claims luna is the solution to whatever issues tommy got. It'll be getting my standard lube scheme & sleeving whenever i open it up. And the cal is you know what.

The anti-beartrap in this one is a similar design as shown above. I made it a habit to check its engagement in the breach on each cocking. It's like a wedge so it's not easy to fail but it's a scary thing if it does while a finger is in there. All things said, a good sidelever is always worth having.

It is nice to know about your new air rifle.Always have an eye on bear trap, I noticed failure of that one time in tommy.After that I increased the spring tension and replaced that.It uses a 26mm leather washer, hence there is less chance to replace it with synthetic one. I attached scope mount with araldite, it can hold because of less recoil.It is a simple and best design of air rifle which can be easily serviced.If it was more hard to cock,try removing some spring coils.If it was factory new, then you should open it to lube thoroughly inside.Surprisingly it needs very less preload compared to break barrels.I had only 30 coils in my AR with less than one inch preload.

Thanks vraja.....I stand educated.

Basu

Welcome Basu ji

Ohho I was about to buy Tommy thanks for saving me time and money.

Regard
Veerbhadra

Please tell the price as well

Irfan ghayas, as i said in my earlier post it is not a good gun.It cost me 5k,but not worth the time or money in'wa'sted .You have to wait for other good manufacturers to come up with this model.I don't like anybody affected like me.

Hi vsraja,

Presently Tommy has stopped production of sidelever's. Any ideas if any other manufacturer has come up with sidelever.

Regards
dh

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Gunner_dh wrote:Hi vsraja,

Presently Tommy has stopped production of sidelever's. Any ideas if any other manufacturer has come up with sidelever.

Regards
dh

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Better keep off Indian side levers, or every time you load, kiss your fingers bye bye for it may be the last they are part of you.

BD