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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by z375 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:51 pm

That case is definitely .577 sized and it seems more like its been necked down to .450 or .465 rather than .500, so its definitely not a .470 or a .505 (the .505 Gibbs is one handful of cartridge!) plenty of taper on that shoulder and pretty long neck too. Quite like a rimmed .404 Jeffery or a rimmed .425 WR. Is it a .476 WR?
"With solid bullets on heavy animals such as elephant, rhino and buffalo this power is quite apparent but is not so obvious as when soft-nose bullets are being used, say, lion, particularly when is a case of stopping a charge : the .404 will stop him all right, but will seldom crumple him quite so completely as will the .416" -- John Taylor, Big Game and Big Game Rifles, (Ch. IX)

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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by Vikram » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:03 pm

So far CC is leading :mrgreen: the guess work,closely followed by Zubin and Timmy.

No one seemed to have picked up the clue about the "artillery shell". Another clue is it's a proprietary cartridge.I think that makes it really easy to find out now.

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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by z375 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:21 pm

Vikram wrote:So far CC is leading :mrgreen: the guess work,closely followed by Zubin and Timmy.

No one seemed to have picked up the clue about the "artillery shell". Another clue is it's a proprietary cartridge.I think that makes it really easy to find out now.

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Its the .600/.577 REWA then.. :mrgreen: I wanted to mention this but could'nt believe it myself...please correct me if im wrong :mrgreen:
"With solid bullets on heavy animals such as elephant, rhino and buffalo this power is quite apparent but is not so obvious as when soft-nose bullets are being used, say, lion, particularly when is a case of stopping a charge : the .404 will stop him all right, but will seldom crumple him quite so completely as will the .416" -- John Taylor, Big Game and Big Game Rifles, (Ch. IX)

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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by Vikram » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:33 pm

z375 wrote: I wanted to mention this but could'nt believe it myself

Why,did you find it smaller? :wink: Let's wait if anyone else takes a shot at it.Will disclose this evening. :)

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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by cottage cheese » Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:19 pm

Vikram wrote:So far CC is leading :mrgreen:
You cant beat ol' eagle eye here :mrgreen:
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Post by HydNawab » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:02 pm

Is it a .577/450 ? I assumed it was a .577 Tyrannosaur cartridge first but I guess im wrong.

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Post by z375 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:32 pm

Ya'll wrong!! its a damn photo-shopped varmint cartridge!!! :mrgreen:
"With solid bullets on heavy animals such as elephant, rhino and buffalo this power is quite apparent but is not so obvious as when soft-nose bullets are being used, say, lion, particularly when is a case of stopping a charge : the .404 will stop him all right, but will seldom crumple him quite so completely as will the .416" -- John Taylor, Big Game and Big Game Rifles, (Ch. IX)

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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by ragunnaath » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:15 pm

To me it surely looks like the 9.3 x 57 Mauser or Norma cartridge...

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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by Risala » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:46 pm

.585 Nyati

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Post by TwoRivers » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:18 am

Both the 9.3x57 and the .585 Nyati are rimless, so even if the mystery artillery shell looked like either of those, which it doesn't, the guesses would be off. At least, the shell sure looks rimmed to me. Also, the diameter difference base to bullet is fairly large, too large for the other N.E. cartridges mentioned, though some of them were proprietary as well. A .577/.450?, seems about right for the proportions of the cartridge.

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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by Vikram » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:13 am

OK gentlemen,

Thank you for participating in this little teaser and for keeping this interesting.I shall not keep you guessing any more. Zubin came very close with his .600/.577 Rewa.I wonder why anyone did not go any higher :?: :idea: Abhijeet did tell you. :lol:

It's a .700/.577 NE Westley Richards round. 900 gr pushed at 2300 makes 10280 ft/lb! :shock:

A full report is to follow very soon. :wink:

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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by ragunnaath » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:29 am

Hmmm... I would'nt have guess it anyways.. :) Well.. its a good learning though..

Thanks for all the info Vikram !

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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by cottage cheese » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:26 am

Vikram wrote: It's a .700/.577 NE Westley Richards round. 900 gr pushed at 2300 makes 10280 ft/lb! :shock:
Does IOFB/KF have any plans to produce a state of art raiphool for this? : )
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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by Vikram » Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:48 pm

cottage cheese wrote:Does IOFB/KF have any plans to produce a state of art raiphool for this? : )

Wait until you see the "raiphool".Coming shortly. :lol: :wink:
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Re: Watch This Place!

Post by joydeepm » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:54 am

Oh man Oh man ...i am salivating so bad.....
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