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Airguns while doing TR(transfer of residence)

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Arun.srinivasan
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Airguns while doing TR(transfer of residence)

Postby Arun.srinivasan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:25 am

Hi,

Quick info on Me: been abroad in US for past 5 years with 1 month holiday leave in middle. Pure hobbyist air rifle plinkThinking about getting shooting gun permit here in US.

With the recent change in the rules concerning bringing air guns through customs, I’m seeing varying posts on firearms being allowed while doing TR. I’m more of a plinking/target shooting person with my air rifle (daisy red Ryder) . Not interest in higher caliber firearm.

What are my options in bringing it with me through the Transfer of Residence route?
What are documents that I would need?
Would I need to have anything that shows that it is a 0.177 cal B.B. gun and has only 350 FPS ( less than 2 Joules of muzzle energy)?
Would having firearm license in US help ?
Do I need to be a member of a shooting club in Indiaeven before I consider bringing it with me ?
Can I also bring a CO2 B.B. gun ( daisy power line 340) with me in addition to air rifle?

Has anyone brought air rifle/gun through this route? Have you faced any issues in recent time ( post arms rule of 2016) through this route?

I know these are a lot of questions, but I think this is the best forum for this question. I have seen the passion in lot of posts here for people having guns and helping others overcome legal hurdles. Any and all comments / inputs are greatly appreciated.



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Re: Airguns while doing TR(transfer of residence)

Postby Shivaji.Dasgupta » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:52 am

I never come across incidence of Shifting a BB gun through TR. I think a Shooting Club Membership will help, other than that you need to Apply through proper channel for a TR Shifting of weapon ( Though its not a restricted Cal. in India and a BB Air Gun but Custom people can create any astronomical excuse to seize the Weapon) . Your purchase Bill for the weapon at USA will prove that its a .177 cal and for safe side you can keep the Technical details of your Gun to strengthen your point.
I would request the Members and Moderators who have a past exp. of shifting any sort of weapon through TR or exposure about the complete process to guide you in this matter.
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Re: Airguns while doing TR(transfer of residence)

Postby Arun.srinivasan » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:30 am

Thanks so much Shivaji. Appreciate your response. I was even thinking about getting a cannon from Kolkata or ordering a National rifle thinking .177 is not even allowed. But I have grown so attached to this, I feel I should take the extra step to bring it with me. I have been shooting daily everyday atleast 50 bbs (built with an excellent trap that lets me reuse 100% of my bbs). I’ll try posting the trap setup in a separate post. But since mine cannot fire pellets, i’m not sure of its effectiveness against it.

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I’m planning on even printing out all rules and have them handy for showing to customs officer. Considering I currently don’t have a Indian rifle club membership, I understand there will be extra steps needed to go through this route, but i’m okay with doing things the right way.

I hope that if one person does things the right way, it can serve as a future guide for others wishing to follow down the same path.

Also, while reading through the verbiage on the arms rules of 2016 something struck me odd -

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In another post in IFG, It says that a circular was put out that restricted the import of .177 cal air rifles to only shooting club membership or NRAI membership, but on careful examination, it shows that the import duties are free for members of shooting club and a letter is needed from NRAI stating the same, to avail that benefit. I don’t see any restriction being put on to only members. I might be missing the key coomunication then, but a reference to that would be highly appreciative.


But as per Arms Rule , it is also implied that .177 air rifle does not need an arms license if having less than 20 Joules or 15ftlbs muzzle strength. I’m thinking that if I get a letter or confirmation from the office of commissioner of police or a district magistrate or an affidavit from a lawyer confirming on the stated rules of customs, arms rule of 2016, then I would be right to bring the air rifle but I would be needed to pay the 105% if import duty on the price of the air rifle and the ammunitions.

This air rifle costs 25$ in Walmart(which is what I bought it for), but I think they would ge looking at the retail price which is 69$. So if i’m ready to shell out 100$ for airlines + 69$( minus depreciation value for holding on to this rifle for over a year) for customs then I should be good is my personal thought. Even if I pay all this, I get the rifle and the pellets for around 13k which is a solid 4K less than in India.

Any references to commissioner office in Chennai, would be greatly appreciated to further confirm on this.



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Re: Airguns while doing TR(transfer of residence)

Postby rahulbdelhi » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:01 am

Is a shooting club membership mandatory for air-guns? As per the TR rules for firearms, you just need a firearm license in India. Air guns are not firearms. And its very unlikely that a person living abroad for 5 years will be a member of a shooting-club in India.



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Re: Airguns while doing TR(transfer of residence)

Postby Shivaji.Dasgupta » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:44 am

AS its a sentimental issue attached with your gun so better you take a membership in any Shooting club in chennai during your visit to India and get a letter from them regarding Your Air Guns for Practice Purpose. Though custom may not stop you for your Guns if your TR papers are OK but be on safer side have every thing ready in your hand to avoid trouble during shifting.



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Re: Airguns while doing TR(transfer of residence)

Postby Arun.srinivasan » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:46 am

Rahul, I agree the verbiage is rather ambiguous.

Shivaji, I’m getting a couple of police contacts to try to get a NOC or even a .22 caliber arms license for bringing in .177 caliber B.B. gun through TR. One person seems to be a distant relative of mine in Tirunelvelli and another is a friends father who is in police department in Bangalore. I agree that though TR seems a valid legal route, membership of rifle club membership in India might be needed.



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Re: Airguns while doing TR(transfer of residence)

Postby rahulbdelhi » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:46 am

Wish you all the best. Do share your experiences.




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