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Czech government tells its citizens how to fight terrorists: Shoot them yourselves

Postby mundaire » Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:27 pm

Now here is a government that seems to have its head screwed on right!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 15671.html

Czech government tells its citizens how to fight terrorists: Shoot them yourselves
Amanda Erickson
Monday 9 January 2017 11:58 GMT

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A couple of months ago, Czech President Milos Zeman made an unusual request: He urged citizens to arm themselves against a possible "super-Holocaust" carried out by Muslim terrorists.

Never mind that there are fewer than 4,000 Muslims in this country of 10 million people — gun purchases spiked. One shop owner in East Bohemia, a region in the northern center of the Czech Republic, told a local paper that people were scared of a "wave of Islamists."

Now the country's interior ministry is pushing a constitutional change that would let citizens use guns against terrorists. Proponents say this could save lives if an attack occurs and police are delayed or unable to make their way to the scene. To become law, Parliament must approve the proposal; they'll vote in the coming months.

The Czech Republic already has some of the most lenient gun policies in Europe. It's home to about 800,000 registered firearms and 300,000 people with gun licenses. Obtaining a weapon is relatively easy: Residents must be 21, pass a gun knowledge check and have no criminal record. By law, Czechs can use their weapons to protect their property or when in danger, although they need to prove they faced a real threat.

This puts the country at odds with much of Europe, which has long supported much more stringent gun-control measures. In the wake of the 2015 terror attacks in Paris, France pushed the European Union to enact even tougher policies. The European Commission's initial proposal called for a complete ban on the sale of weapons like Kalashnikovs or AR-15s that are intended primarily for military use. Ammunition magazines would be limited to 20 rounds or less.

The Czech Republic came out hard against the directive. Officials warned — somewhat ominously — that the measure would limit the country's ability to build "an internal security system" and make it nearly impossible to train army reservists. And a total ban on military-style rifles that can fire large numbers of rounds would make illegal thousands of weapons already owned by Czech citizens, potentially creating a black market for terrorists to exploit. Finland and Germany offered their own reservations; Europe's pro-gun groups also mobilised against the bill with the support of politicians on the extreme right.

After months of contentious negotiations, the EU passed a compromise last month; the Council of Ministers will confirm the measure this spring. All member states will have 15 months to comply with the new gun restrictions. The final measure bans the sale of most military-style rifles and requires all potential buyers to go through a psychological check before they can buy a weapon. If someone fails a check in one E.U. state, that information will be shared in an international database so that the person can't procure a gun somewhere else. Online sales are also severely curtailed. The Czech Republic was the only country to oppose the directive for being too strict. Luxembourg also voted against the measure, but on the grounds that it was too weak.

That means that regardless of how the Czech parliament votes on the terrorist-hunting measure, gun laws in the Czech Republic are going to get stricter. All gun purchasers will be required to pass the psychological checks, though it's not yet clear if gun owners will have to turn in newly illegal weapons. That ambiguity has led one Czech newspaper to suggest that the Interior Ministry's latest move is much more about political safety than safety from terrorism.

Copyright: The Washington Post


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Re: Czech government tells its citizens how to fight terrorists: Shoot them yourselves

Postby nitroex700 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:51 pm

Yes I read this somewhere too.. In a country like India running a constant terrorist and crime threat, a well placed medium bore shot from a well meaning 'citizen warrior' could end the unholy run of any antisocial element.. But then the so called warrior would be facing CrPC 302 as well.. As it is the biggest threat to the existence of wildlife in the country emanates exlusively from .22 airgunners, if certain politicians are to be believed...



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Postby goodboy_mentor » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:00 pm

While I fully agree with the Czech governments idea of arming it's citizens to protect themselves from criminal harm but strongly disagree with labeling criminals as "Muslim terrorists"(as labelled in the above mentioned news report) or "Christian terrorists" or "Hindu terrorists" etc. A criminal is a criminal and not a representative example of all the members of his cultural, social or religious group.


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Postby art_collector » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:37 pm

....and here we are supposed to get a licence for a .22 air gun..



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Postby Woods » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:50 pm

goodboy_mentor wrote:While I fully agree with the Czech governments idea of arming it's citizens to protect themselves from criminal harm but strongly disagree with labeling criminals as "Muslim terrorists"(as labelled in the above mentioned news report) or "Christian terrorists" or "Hindu terrorists" etc. A criminal is a criminal and not a representative example of all the members of his cultural, social or religious group.
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There might be some reasons that Czechs found problem with ideology of muslims . Unless and until a person is an expert of ALL the ideologies , it would not be very scientific to claim all are well . Yoga has a religion and so terrorism too might have . Anyway , it's to be found out sincerely . One should ask himself -is he comparing apples to apples .

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Czechs are a society so they are fighting the menace as such ie like a society . We are a mess , with countless wolves trying to rip apart Indian fabric . They are within us .


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Postby goodboy_mentor » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:48 pm

Woods wrote:There might be some reasons that Czechs found problem with ideology of muslims . Unless and until a person is an expert of ALL the ideologies , it would not be very scientific to claim all are well . Yoga has a religion and so terrorism too might have . Anyway , it's to be found out sincerely . One should ask himself -is he comparing apples to apples .
Only Mr. Woods is the scientific expert who knows the best. Following will help his "scientific" views -
London: Mosques, gurdwaras and churches in West London have opened their doors to offer assistance to the survivors of a huge fire that engulfed a 24-storey residential tower block killing six people and injuring over 50 others.

“Sikh Gurdwaras in London have started collecting and distributing spare clothes, toys, toiletries for Grenfell Tower evacuees,” Harjinder Kukreja, a Sikh philanthropist, said.

“The evacuees only have what they’re wearing. We need to support them with spare necessities,” he was quoted as saying by the metro.co.uk.

London’s Sikh community was also praised for helping people in the wake of the UK terror attack.

While St Clements Church in Treadgold St has been turned into an evacuation centre to support Grenfell Tower residents who have managed to escape the blaze.

“If you can help with clothes, food, blankets, toiletries etc please donate,” Labour MP David Lammy said.

The area around Grenfell Tower is home to a large number of Muslims. It has been reported that Muslim communities have rushed to the assistance of affected residents.

“Local Mosque in #latimerroad area open doors for help. Really appreciated by locals. #GrenfellTower #LondonFire,” Syed Ajmal Kazmi said.

One resident, Mohammed, who escaped with his family, said they were up late because of it being Ramazan so they were able to escape the building quickly after smelling smoke.

It is believed that Muslims in the building, up at 1:00 AM due to Ramazan, acted as lifesavers, alerting other residents sand helping people to get out of the burning building.

The fire is believed to have broken out on the second floor of the tower block housing 120 flats over 20 residential levels and four community levels and had soon engulfed the entire building.
Source https://www.nigerianews360.com/mosques- ... ndon-fire/
Woods wrote:We are a mess , with countless wolves trying to rip apart Indian fabric . They are within us .
Only Mr. Woods and those with similar "scientific" ideas know the art of stitching the fabric.


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Re: Czech government tells its citizens how to fight terrorists: Shoot them yourselves

Postby Woods » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:56 pm

I wonder how people are hyper-sensitive as soon as Identification of a violent ideology comes closer . Read once more - I didn't attributed anything to anyone .
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Secondly , I requested not to compare apple with oranges . The world no longer receives false arguments as readily as it did before . It's time for introspection by those who are taught to worship violence generation by generation . It's matter of introspection and not allegation , so no need of jumping so scared .


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Postby goodboy_mentor » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:16 pm

Woods wrote:I wonder how people are hyper-sensitive as soon as Identification of a violent ideology comes closer . Read once more - I didn't attributed anything to anyone .
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Secondly , I requested not to compare apple with oranges . The world no longer receives false arguments as readily as it did before . It's time for introspection by those who are taught to worship violence generation by generation . It's matter of introspection and not allegation , so no need of jumping so scared .
One wonders how some persons jump to the conclusion that one ideology is only about violence and attribute their own hyper sensitivity on others. Nothing to be scared, fully agree with you. Nobody is comparing apples with oranges. Humans are being compared with humans. Charity begins at home, who taught to worship violence generation after generation for thousands of years against shudras and women? Did you read the manusmriti? Doesn't it ordain that if shudra hears someone reading the scriptures then pour molten lead into his ears? Doesn't it ordain that if shudra reads scriptures his tongue be cut off? These are the "divine" laws. Doesn't it equate animals, shudras and women as same category? What does Tulsi Das says? Doesn't he say Dhol, Shudra aur Naari, teeno taran ke adhikari Means drum, shudra and woman are fit to be beaten.


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Postby Woods » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:36 pm

Forgive the degression from original post .
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Fortunately in Kerala , Christians are taught Vedas too . I have read Manusmriti too . You certainly have not .
Secondly , reform comes from within . Christian texts too are full of violence and all but it were the Christians where reform came from .Similar is the case with Hibdoos . Text are there still but a" common core" morality prevails . Narratives and counter-narratives will always be there but it's for the group itself to decide what they want for their children . Suptemacist philosophy of anyone is doomed to fall in abyss and that's what has been happening , far more speeding in the modern world .
How many mouths can be shut . Are Czechs alone . What about Poland , Hungary , China , Philippines , UK ( remember Brexit?) , and US . Here is the speech of Hungarian PM (with English subtitles) listen to his concerns .

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EbINrdyAXlE

Also , isn't it the tolerance of Hindoos that you are criticizing their scriptures so freely ( out of context or not ) ? That's the difference .


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Postby mundaire » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:47 pm

Gentlemen give it a rest! This is not the website for such discussions. Unless it has to do with gun politics then we don't want politics here.

Thread locked and members warned to desist from starting this / these distracting discussions on other threads.

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