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Democracy and the need for ordinary citizens to bear arms

Postby mundaire » Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:32 pm

https://youtu.be/EMg0AF_B_es

This video is in Hindi, be great if someone could post a translation for the benefit of members who do not know Hindi.

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Re: Democracy and the need for ordinary citizens to bear arms

Postby StampMaster » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:28 pm

Namaskar, this is Rahul Mehta from Right to Recall Group. Our intention is to bring back Right to Recall in India. This is a 15 minute video. There is another video on military, its 45-55 minutes long.

This video is about Right to Bear Arms, means every person can own weapon. Reference material is available on http://www.rahulmehta.com/301.html . In chapter 26 and 29 , Weaponization of Commons.

There is a law in Switzerland, that people aged from 25 – 45 (I may be wrong with the number) should own a weapon. If someone does not own one, then he would be punished under law. Same law has to be implemented in India for the following reasons.

1. Military will be strong. When a person handles (fires) weapon, he will understand the value and power it has. So he can estimate how much power does a tank, missiles etc has and if the government and politicians are making our armed forces stronger or weaker. A person will be able to understand practicality of weapons.
2. We India, buy most of our weapons from foreign countries. For any reason, if we don’t get spares etc our armed forces will get weak. To avoid any such situation happening, individual owning arms will be able to fight back and support our military
One reason for Russian win WW2 was because of Staling idea of arming his citizens.
Nazi general advised Hitler not to wage war with Swiss, as most of the citizen own firearms attacking them would be counterproductive.
3. Democracy- When people own arms then the democracy will work in the right state and follow laws. Which lead to decrease in red tapism and reduction in bureaucratic behavior.
4. During the 1929 great depression, America has started welfare state immediately. As they knew that most of their citizens are armed. Government and bureaucrats knew that even police or armed forces cannot manage such large armed population revolting, so introduced Social Security at the earliest.
5. During drought in 1942 in India, about 30-40 lakh (3-4 million) people died of starvation. Ruling British and Indian elites were still living in luxury. As the common man does not own arms to revolt against inefficient corrupt government.

In short, where nations citizens own arms, democracy is maintained to its highest standards. And ruling class behave in disciplined manner.

In 1931, Jawahar Lal Nehru, Sardar Vallabhai Patel and Mohan Pai written a congress resolution during Karachi meet to make Owning Arms to be made as a Fundamental Right. But that has been forgotten by everone after independence.

Only when it come to this context- Right to Bear Arms come in to picture, I call Gandhi as Mahamatma Gandhi, in everything else I call him Satan.

When we read about other countries, England has started democratic state in 950 AD and jury system was started. And in 1100 AD they have to bring democracy in effect and elect leaders as they were continuously waging wars with Arabs. So the elites in England had trained their citizens and provided them with arms.

Today when people say owning firearms is easy but there are no moral value in society, then please apply for arms license. In Ahmedabad, Gujrat the price (greasing hand) for getting an arms license in about 2-2.5 lakh (Rs 200000- 250000 or USD 3000 to 4000) in any police station unless you have high level political connections.

Rowdy sheeters and anti-social elements can easily manage to get arms because of money and sometime political connections. Any an ordinary citizens like us in need of security cannot afford to spend big monies. Sometimes a needy middle class person cannot even get license after waiting for 2-3 or 10 years

I propose a law that every citizens should be able to own arms till a person is proven unfit. Until, a jury trial will decide a person is convicted and felony. Except that all other citizens above the age of 18 should be able to own firearms. And not just own but also trained and it should be made mandatory.

Terrorists like Kasab (attacks of 26/11 in Mumbai) have created mayhem in Mumbai killing 300-400 innocent citizens. This could have been minimized if people were allowed to own arms. Even at Taj hotel Mumbai attack, not one of the guest had arms to counter and minimize the damage.

In Israeli, during emergency and terrorism attack situation, armed citizens (owning arms is easy) immediately neutralize the terror event planned. Any events like 26/11 (Mumbai kind of events), if ever happens in Israel, then such events would have be finished in less than 30 minutes and Police would have come at the end just to pick up the terrorist dead bodies.

Our present war like situation (we cannot predict the time of war). If China wages war against India. May not directly but through Pakistan as proxy then Pakistan can create a havoc in India. We India cannot fight back with China with the military infrastructure we have. So our border forces may get weaken and people from Pakistan may flood into India. And most of the citizens in Pakistan own weapons. Pakistan citizens own more than 1-1.5 crore (10-15 million AK-57 assault rifles) and whole of our defense owns hardly 30-40 lakh (3-4 million) including all the armed forces, police, paramilitary etc. In case of attack by a large number in tens of thousands of Pakistan civilian population may infiltrate India. During such situation, if all Indians are armed we can minimize such situations and keep our borders and territory safe and in Indian control.

So, I request that the govt has to allow individuals to own and bear weapons. And request all individuals to apply for arms license without paying bribe and without any political influence. And share this with your friends.

Collector/ DM, Police commissioner in your areas are unofficially been notified by the govt to control arms license and been strict quote not to exceed. Which result in increase in corruption proportionately to the limited number of license to be provided.

Increase in armed citizen will increase in crime rate is all foolishly publicized. Places and countries where arms laws are favoring to keep and bear arms, the crime rate is absolute minimal.
For example, which state have higher crime rates in America? Only in those states where arms laws are not liberal. Swiss has lot less crime rate than in India. France and Britain.

Mugging is also less in the places where law abiding citizens owning guns are high. Rape rates are also low countries with high gun ownership states.

This is my proposal- Weaponisation of us Commons. A gazette notification is sufficient to the licensing authority to allow all citizen (except with criminal background, and unsound mind) to be allowed to own and bear arms.

Thank you.



Note- Thanks to Mr. Shashank, my friend who has translated the above video.


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Re: Democracy and the need for ordinary citizens to bear arms

Postby mundaire » Mon Oct 03, 2016 5:08 pm

Once again, thank you for the translation StampMaster (y) :)

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Re: Democracy and the need for ordinary citizens to bear arms

Postby captrakshitsharma » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:38 pm

Stamp Master i must congratulate you on your great work! We look at having a long and fruitful association with you.


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