Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by Virendra S Rathore » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:52 pm

vkjalan - Great job friend.
sa_ali wrote: should have CC our email to Navin Jindal too. He is knows to helping the fraternity a lot if we can bring it to his attention.
- [email protected] in case someone's mailing him

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by amk » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:40 pm

Great work vk_jalan. May be I can do something on similar lines here!!!
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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by vkjalan » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:29 pm

I am really feeling nice for the things done.... I am waiting for an update From Abhijeet abt what happened in the meeting he had gone.

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by m24 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:07 pm

Dev,Abhijit,Amit,Nishant and OUP, my heartfelt thanks for taking the initiative. Vkj, you're being modest here. Yours is by no means a small contribution. It's a great achievement.

Now for my stupid question, Whats Next?? Can we have more suggestions for advertising our message /furthering the cause??

People, remember, we have to be 3 moves ahead of the govt. players.

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by dev » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:20 pm

Need more write ups in the newspapers. A few more snippets like the one Vkj managed. We need the energy of shiva and the rest of you to keep on churning ideas to spread the word. It should be a tsunami of information and public opinion. The information has to reach all the people and the issue must be discussed till we find a way to reach a fair conclusion. Do the online versions of the national dailies have a letters to the editor section?

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by Sakobav » Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:23 am

vkjalan
Thats a great step and action you took..

Dev

One way is to write letters to the dailies or editors and who knows they might publish. Compelling reason being curbing the RKBA, chance to fight back etc. Another effective option as vkjalan just showed is targeting journos and editors. While back in 2008 many individual investors were mislead by by banks in purchasing risky securities. No newspaper including Wall street journal, CNBS, CNN etc would even report.. finally victims formed a forum started targeting journalist covering such topics. It worked ...
If possible we should start compiling list of journos...just a thought...last resort take an ad out...

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by Vikram » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:06 am

VKjalan,

Thank you very much for your help to the cause.


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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:18 am

Some one should tell our Home Minister this
Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience- CS Lewis
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write up on rediff.com

Post by sat » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:16 pm

read this on rediff.com

"India on gun control mode; policy change, database soon".. January 10, 2010 17:58 IST

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jan/ ... e-soon.htm


do post a comment Discussion Board..

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by shooter » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:34 pm

i was happy to read about what the people had to say.

we must recruit more people like mr. dharmendra jadaun here. i tried to leave a message asking everyone to join ifg but somehow cant sign in i think my rediff account has been deactivated.
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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by Virendra S Rathore » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:01 pm

Guys,

I've posted at the comments thread there .. message is pending for moderator review before being visible.
I've also mentioned relevant URLs, including for docs at IFG.

Thanks 'sat', 'shooter'.

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Re: write up on rediff.com

Post by Vikram » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:47 am

sat wrote:read this on rediff.com

"India on gun control mode; policy change, database soon".. January 10, 2010 17:58 IST

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jan/ ... e-soon.htm


do post a comment Discussion Board..
It truly got me fuming.What a completely misplaced and uninformed action!All under the impression of doing a social good.

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by goodboy_mentor » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:02 pm

It truly got me fuming.What a completely misplaced and uninformed action!All under the impression of doing a social good.
MHA seems to be following a Chinese proverb — “better do in inches than in yards”. I fully agree, it is a smokescreen, under impression of doing social good, disguised to indirectly take away the Constitutional & Legal Rights of citizens slowly and steadily.
The main point of concern at the moment is:
1)The proposed draft in the present form should not get implemented, since it is against the very “Doctrine of our Constitution”, indirectly taking away Right to Life protected by Article 21, by denying/making process difficult practically to the extent of denial, to acquire credible tools of self defense, making it's citizens defenseless against acts of armed aggression by criminals.(Criminals by the very nature of their business, always stay armed and organized when committing a crime, no matter what the law was/is/or will be.) Hence any law formulated by the state cannot overlook the Right to Protection, Right to Life, and the very "Doctrine of Constitution"
Ref: http://www.legalserviceindia.com/articles/thyg.htm
2)If the proposed draft gets implemented in its present form or with some minor changes, we should be well prepared physically & mentally to file case/PIL etc. in Hon'able Court, keeping the same Chinese proverb in mind — “better do in inches than in yards”
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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by kanwar76 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:53 pm

Thanks & Kudos vkjalan,

Its great to see everybody come together for a cause.

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by kanwar76 » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:44 am

Any news on this?
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