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Re: CCI Stinger

Post by penpusher » Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:24 pm

A couple of bricks at $560 :shock: Indian gun lovers are loaded.At least some of them.God help the rest.

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Re: CCI Stinger

Post by art_collector » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:09 pm

.......well shooting is a rich mans game any way u got to be laoded.....

See the prices of firearms ....hand guns and rifles.......(Only indian guns are cheap..... A DBBL Gun costs you Rs. 11000/- (including VAT) ie $ 275 in Delhi ......rest every thing is expensive...

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Post by penpusher » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:21 pm

Well not everything.At least not all the time :wink: :lol:

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Post by kanwar76 » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:07 am

art_collector";p="26291 wrote:.......well shooting is a rich mans game any way u got to be laoded.....

See the prices of firearms ....hand guns and rifles.......(Only indian guns are cheap..... A DBBL Gun costs you Rs. 11000/- (including VAT) ie $ 275 in Delhi ......rest every thing is expensive...

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Hi AC which DBBL is that? Munger or Mehar? I know you can't expect much from a 11K shotgun but still is it any good for casual shooting and home defense?

BTW in US you can get a brand spanking remington pump action for 100-150 Dollars :)

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Post by shahid » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:19 am

Don't be too impressed by these Mungeri shotguns. THey may be available at a mere Rs. 11,000 to 15,000 but they are top muzzle heavy unbalanced guns, with 32 inch barrels and poor quality Kashmir Walnut or Beech stocks.

Action failure is common, firing pin problems are numerous and the gun heats up on shooting only 8 to 10 cartridges, obviously the quality of gun metal is poorer compared to English guns.

However at this price it is suitable for Civialian defence and that is its primary purpose.

If the Govt. of India ever allows a free market and imports, much superior products like the Russian Baikal and Turkish guns will retail for Rs. 8,000 to 10,000 with a 35 % margin for the dealer and drive these Indian guns out of the market.

But then here comes socialism. If you do this what about the 5,000 odd employed in the private sector arms manufacture ?

Skilled craftsmen are always required by repair shops and if the sales is good then Baikal and others may setup production facilities in India.

If Suzuki, Hyundai and Renault can do this, changing the face of the Indian Auto market, why cannot this experiment be repeated in Arms sector ? Vested interests again.

Local manufacture of shotgun shells is possible. India today has excellent blow moulding and injection moulding technology. Brass caps and primers can be manufactured in ALigarh / Kanpur areas. These guys today manufacture metal buttons for Gucci and Armani purses useing similar die and sheet metal, albeit a different thickness.

AH Wheeler of Allahabad has a chilled shot drop tower, lying unused.

THe cost of manufacturing an olympic grade trap / skeet cartridge would be about Rs. 4.00, which is about 40 % of what it costs today in Cyprus and England, besides it would generate employment. But is anyone listening ?

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Re: CCI Stinger

Post by art_collector » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:59 pm

Hi Inder ,

Well Bharat Small Arms made in Jammu is sold for 11,000/- (including VAT @ 12.5%) in Delhi. And so are many other DBBL Guns which are available in this range.

Adding some more u could get most other good quality guns from Munger like M.bansidhar, Mewalal, Royal etc in 22" Pistol grips etc .

If interested drop me a line I can ask my frend to send u a detailed price list .

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Post by art_collector » Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:02 pm

ShahidBhai,

What does Mr. Banerjee require a chilled drop tower for that its lying unused with him.

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Post by mundaire » Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:39 pm

art_collector";p="26327 wrote: ShahidBhai,

What does Mr. Banerjee require a chilled drop tower for that its lying unused with him.

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I wouldn't mind picking up some qty. of chilled shot from the gent if he is manufacturing/ selling...

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Re: CCI Stinger

Post by kanwar76 » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:37 pm

art_collector";p="26326 wrote:Hi Inder ,

Well Bharat Small Arms made in Jammu is sold for 11,000/- (including VAT @ 12.5%) in Delhi. And so are many other DBBL Guns which are available in this range.

Adding some more u could get most other good quality guns from Munger like M.bansidhar, Mewalal, Royal etc in 22" Pistol grips etc .

If interested drop me a line I can ask my frend to send u a detailed price list .

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Thanks AC,

Just one question though, Is munger guns better then Modern or Mehar singh of Jammu?

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Re: CCI Stinger

Post by art_collector » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:24 pm

Modern from Jammu is the best there. These are Non Ejector guns but very simple & beautifful guns.

Munger made guns are generally supposed to be better . Guns in munger are being made for over 100 years now. The process used for blueing is better in Munger . Dont think comparisson would be that easy. But of the munger made guns that I like the best are Imperial Arms & Girilal. Yes they would surely be better than modern & Mehar Singh

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Post by art_collector » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:26 pm

Hi Abhijeet,

What would the lead shot be used for ....reloading? Dont think they manufacture them because Mr. Banerjee is a book publisher..thats why I asked Shahid Bhai what use does the tower have for him.

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Re: CCI Stinger

Post by kanwar76 » Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:42 pm

art_collector";p="26349 wrote:Modern from Jammu is the best there. These are Non Ejector guns but very simple & beautifful guns.

Munger made guns are generally supposed to be better . Guns in munger are being made for over 100 years now. The process used for blueing is better in Munger . Dont think comparisson would be that easy. But of the munger made guns that I like the best are Imperial Arms & Girilal. Yes they would surely be better than modern & Mehar Singh

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Hi AC,

Heard good things about Imperial, how much it retails for in Delhi?

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Post by shahid » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:20 am

A H Wheeler also owned a sports division where they made Symonds Cricket and Tennis equipment in the 1980s and earlier.

I have no idea for whom these guys manufactured shots for, perhaps a subcontract or subsidary. I am not sure I heard that AH Wheeler's publishing business too is closed doen and railway book stalls all over India are to be recontracted.

Why they had it no idea, but Symonds did have it and my information is old.

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Re: CCI Stinger

Post by Risala » Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:47 am

kanwar76";p="26353 wrote:
art_collector";p="26349 wrote:Modern from Jammu is the best there. These are Non Ejector guns but very simple & beautifful guns.

Munger made guns are generally supposed to be better . Guns in munger are being made for over 100 years now. The process used for blueing is better in Munger . Dont think comparisson would be that easy. But of the munger made guns that I like the best are Imperial Arms & Girilal. Yes they would surely be better than modern & Mehar Singh

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Hi AC,

Heard good things about Imperial, how much it retails for in Delhi?

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There are a few folks on the forum who own an Imperial,they have good things to say.

I owned a Mehar Singh with ejectors for a long time it worked flawlessly.

Also consider firang ones with exposed hammers,they go pretty cheap,saw a Beretta going for 23 K.

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Post by mundaire » Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:51 pm

art_collector";p="26350 wrote: Hi Abhijeet,

What would the lead shot be used for ....reloading? Dont think they manufacture them because Mr. Banerjee is a book publisher..thats why I asked Shahid Bhai what use does the tower have for him.

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AC, that is exactly what I had in mind... considering the paucity and irregular supply of desirable shot no's, I intended to use the shot to replace No. 1's, BB's etc. with No. 6 or 7 shot...

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