marksman wrote:Well....unless there are hot showers.
The heat before the shower, combined with body heat, can make the wax run.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:45 pm
by Grumpy
Hoppes No.9 Bore Cleaner has been around since 1903.
Ballistol first appeared in 1904.
Not surprising that things have developed somewhat in nearly 110 years.
Yes, I agree that Eezox smells the best - or is the least offensive smelling anyway. It`s not exactly widely available in the UK either - I only know one source for it - but it tests as the best and having used it on all my guns I am happy to confirm that it is a superb product.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:49 pm
by Grumpy
I have this interesting image of people trying to work furniture wax - or car wax/whatever - onto a damp gun ......
I wonder how any wax will effect the bore when the gun is fired ?
One thing though - pick the appropriate wax and your gun can smell of lemons or lavender. Lovely.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:00 pm
by Mack The Knife
Grumpy wrote:Hoppes No.9 Bore Cleaner has been around since 1903.
As per those who have used it for a long time, the present Hoppes #9 Bore Solvent is a lot weaker than what it used to be. I am willing to believe this as I did not get satisfactory results.
Other than Roaring Forties, is Eezox available anywhere else in the U.K.?
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:13 pm
by Grumpy
Not that I know. They are supposed to be the UK distributors but I`ve never seen it anywhere else - I got mine mail order from Roaring Forties.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:25 pm
by Mack The Knife
Thanks. Will try and get some this August.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:05 pm
by Grumpy
You can only get the 4 oz can and the very small dispenser from Roaring forties - not the aerosol. Get the 4oz can.
It goes a VERY long way as you just need a very thin coat - if it puddles at all it won`t `set` so you know there`s too much. I use a fine, soft artists paint brush to apply it to lock parts/trigger mechanisms, general mechanical parts, etc and a thicker artists brush to apply it to external surfaces. I use a small piece of rag soaked in Eezol for the bores and pass it through a few times.
If you check the Roaring Forties site you can see the prices and their ( UK ) postage costs.
Maybe not surprisingly I find that less plastic and carbon/powder waste adheres to shotgun bores if they`re pre-treated with Eezox and there`s less copper fouling in rifle bores.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:10 pm
by Grumpy
By the way, I COMPLETELY treated 15 guns/rifles with about 5 or 6 oz of Eezox so a 4 oz can will last forever if just being used on a single pistol.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:22 pm
by Grumpy
Another `by the way`: I`ve found KG-12 to be EASILY the best copper fouling remover I`ve ever tried but I haven`t found anyone that stocks it in the UK......although I haven`t looked in some time. I brought a can back from the US in 2005 and there`s - maybe - enough left to clean a rifle barrel another couple of times.
It`s ammonia free as well so can be safely used with stainless steel barrels.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:03 pm
by Mack The Knife
Thanks Grumpy. Not a fan of aerosol cans, generally speaking, though that is what I had previously.
I recall reading a lot of very good reports on KG-12 but it's one I have not tried. With just one firearm now (and that too a rimfire), almost no shooting and a plentiful of stock of bore solvents still in the cabinet, I'd rather get a few cans of Eezox.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:32 pm
by Grumpy
You won`t regret it because it is REALLY good.
The problem with aerosol cans is that you waste product with overspray .... and as often as not you spray on too much as well anyway.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:51 pm
by AgentDoubleS
Grumpy, I did some quick research on the net and read it's meant for "aggressive removal of copper fouling" vs. a KG-2 meant for "copper and lead fouling". Not sure what 'agressive' here means. Ref from: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/144092 ... c=wishList
Any word of caution on its use?
What I do like is its not ammonia based.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:08 pm
by Grumpy
`Aggressive` I believe refers to it`s effectiveness - it`s very quick - particularly on barrels that are badly fouled with copper deposits. It`s recommended for use on stainless steel match barrels which can be damaged with solvents that have high levels of ammonia. You`ll see a lot of match shooters recommending it`s use and also the US military uses it. I`ve found no problems when using it .... and I have nothing with a stainless steel barrel.
Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:18 am
by xl_target
There is also this product:
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Re: The real 'gun problem'! (Monsoons)
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:40 am
by winnie_the_pooh
A simple solution would be to chrome plate the entire pistol.The + would be,it would add some bling to an otherwise plain looking pistol.
