Whats with 3-9x40

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Post by MoA » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:58 am

ai";p="65488 wrote: Manish,

Also bear in mind that with heavier scopes, likelihood of breakage on springers will increase. A lighter (small magnification) scope will move with the gun, and a heavier scopes greater inertia of rest will make it tend to resist moving with recoil. The highest magnification reliable scope I know of that is airgun rated is Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24X.

As a thumb rule, one should go for the lowest magnification that will suffice.
Ai,

A number of scopes are used on weapons upto 20MM with no side effects. So do not quite see the logic in the blanket statement that heavy scopes will break on a springer.
Last I checked the recoil on an airgun is miles lower than that on a .338 Lapua Magnum.
Then again I do not shoot air guns.

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Post by fantumfan2003 » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:34 pm

Hey MoA

Can you post some wallpaper quality pics of the .338LM at your convinience ? Would love that.

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ai";p="65488 wrote: Manish,

Also bear in mind that with heavier scopes, likelihood of breakage on springers will increase. A lighter (small magnification) scope will move with the gun, and a heavier scopes greater inertia of rest will make it tend to resist moving with recoil. The highest magnification reliable scope I know of that is airgun rated is Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24X.

As a thumb rule, one should go for the lowest magnification that will suffice.
Ai,

A number of scopes are used on weapons upto 20MM with no side effects. So do not quite see the logic in the blanket statement that heavy scopes will break on a springer.
Last I checked the recoil on an airgun is miles lower than that on a .338 Lapua Magnum.
Then again I do not shoot air guns.

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Re: Whats with 3-9x40

Post by penpusher » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:52 pm

MoA,

the problem with using scopes on springer's is not the recoil per se but the nature of the recoil.

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Re: Whats with 3-9x40

Post by pkjeetesh » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:17 pm

Agree with that penpusher ...the unique 2 way recoil in spring guns...

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Post by ai » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:39 pm

MOA,

Just to go into a bit more detail on airgun recoil-

When the pellet leaves the muzzle, the gun recoils back as would any other gun. Then, the piston head slams into the front of the spring tube/chamber, moving the gun forward. Add to that the vibrations involved with these recoils, plus the vibration caused by the spring.

A scope designed for 20mm or .50 or any other caliber is meant to withstand the recoil of the gun moving backwards.

Airgun scopes are designed to handle bidirectional recoil.

So scope not designed for airguns will get damaged, regardless of their ability to withstand large caliber firearm recoils. This applies to the best known names, and Bushnell, Leopold, Burris etc specifically mention airgun scopes as such.

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Post by dev » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:00 pm

fantumfan2003";p="65421 wrote: MODS

CAN I CLAIM THREAD HIJACK HERE

M.
I have deleted the scrap between pen pusher and ai. Hope that the rest of the thread will contribute more to your query.

Regards,

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Post by fantumfan2003 » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:13 pm

Yes dev,

Actually I have got my answer to the question thus

"The 3-9x is finally answered. Its a combination of usability, popularity, manufacturing cost and selling cost. The target market is hunters hunting at 100 to 200 yards."

I am okay with you closing the thread

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dev";p="65624 wrote:
fantumfan2003";p="65421 wrote: MODS

CAN I CLAIM THREAD HIJACK HERE

M.
I have deleted the scrap between pen pusher and ai. Hope that the rest of the thread will contribute more to your query.

Regards,

Dev

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