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Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby Vikram » Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:36 pm

jsvirk wrote:what is d maximum limit of cartridges that i can possess at one time?


It is mentioned in your license book.


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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby wildhoghunter » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:04 pm

If your shotgun chamber lenght is 70mm or more, just keep some 70 mm 4.8 or slug cartriges .slug cartridge in cylinder bore barrel and 4.8 in choke barrel if any.both will do the job perfectly.no human with any cloths can survive againest a 70 mm 4.8 with in 60 feet .

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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby chahal1979 » Tue May 09, 2017 4:36 pm

Shaktiman Express 4.8 is a best option
₹ 100 per pop
Other option is BB made by iof
₹ 80 per pop
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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby MAGNUM » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:51 pm

What are the best cartridges choice for iof pag for home defence?



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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby russianshooter3 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:37 pm

MAGNUM wrote:What are the best cartridges choice for iof pag for home defence?

buckshot 8 mm



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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby dsingh » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:18 pm

wildhoghunter wrote:If your shotgun chamber lenght is 70mm or more, just keep some 70 mm 4.8 or slug cartriges .slug cartridge in cylinder bore barrel and 4.8 in choke barrel if any.both will do the job perfectly.no human with any cloths can survive againest a 70 mm 4.8 with in 60 feet .

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Sir,
Left barrel is broader and powerful while right barrel is narrow although both r capable of firing 70mm amno.

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Astram 34 gms and shaktiman rifles slug are the deadliest combination and is good againist armed group if u r in defensive mode even more powerful than other combination



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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby Vineet » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:55 pm

dsingh wrote:
wildhoghunter wrote:If your shotgun chamber lenght is 70mm or more, just keep some 70 mm 4.8 or slug cartriges .slug cartridge in cylinder bore barrel and 4.8 in choke barrel if any.both will do the job perfectly.no human with any cloths can survive againest a 70 mm 4.8 with in 60 feet .

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Sir,
Left barrel is broader and powerful while right barrel is narrow although both r capable of firing 70mm amno.

Added in 2 minutes 36 seconds:
Astram 34 gms and shaktiman rifles slug are the deadliest combination and is good againist armed group if u r in defensive mode even more powerful than other combination


But pump action gun has only one barrel :) :)

Go for shaktiman 4.8.


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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby Jr. » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:32 pm

Keeping in mind the limited choice we have available in India,
I would personally prefer 4.8 mm for self defence followed by BB.
(Shaktiman manufactures good quality of both 4.8 and BB).
Normally when shooting in self defence,
Firing from the left or right barrel won't be a matter of choice.
Generally self defence is in close quarters and
In the heat of the moment/battle, instincts take over.
Going by my personal experience, what you are up against, is a factor.
Self defence would normally involve taking on at least 3-4 armed miscreants.
If you are defending against burglary or a sudden attack,
I would always rely on a hand gun (Pistol/Revolver).
It is easier to manoeuvre and can fire rounds in quick secession.
However, I know a gentleman,
Who held back an mob of 60-70 armed (without firearms)men,
With a 12 Bore Double Barrel Gun.
Having said all this,
A Pump Action Shotgun would be ideal for self defence.
(This was earlier not available to civilians in India).
It offers both manoeuvrability and rapid fire.

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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby russianshooter3 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:33 am

Jr. wrote:Keeping in mind the limited choice we have available in India,
I would personally prefer 4.8 mm for self defence followed by BB.
(Shaktiman manufactures good quality of both 4.8 and BB).
Normally when shooting in self defence,
Firing from the left or right barrel won't be a matter of choice.
Generally self defence is in close quarters and
In the heat of the moment/battle, instincts take over.
Going by my personal experience, what you are up against, is a factor.
Self defence would normally involve taking on at least 3-4 armed miscreants.
If you are defending against burglary or a sudden attack,
I would always rely on a hand gun (Pistol/Revolver).
It is easier to manoeuvre and can fire rounds in quick secession.
However, I know a gentleman,
Who held back an mob of 60-70 armed (without firearms)men,
With a 12 Bore Double Barrel Gun.
Having said all this,
A Pump Action Shotgun would be ideal for self defence.
(This was earlier not available to civilians in India).
It offers both manoeuvrability and rapid fire.

Regards,
Jr.

what problem using slug like brenneke or gualandi?



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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby Vineet » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:35 pm

russianshooter3 wrote:what problem using slug like brenneke or gualandi?


Slug is not recommended for self/home defence because the main advantage of a shotgun over other weapons is that it can fire multiple projectiles which increases your chances to hit the target with one shot. If you use a slug in self defence then you are giving away this benefit. Also keep in mind that although a shotgun firing multiple projectiles will produce a spread much larger than a solid projectile, it does not preclude the need to aim.


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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby russianshooter3 » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:17 pm

Vineet wrote:
russianshooter3 wrote:what problem using slug like brenneke or gualandi?


Slug is not recommended for self/home defence because the main advantage of a shotgun over other weapons is that it can fire multiple projectiles which increases your chances to hit the target with one shot. If you use a slug in self defence then you are giving away this benefit. Also keep in mind that although a shotgun firing multiple projectiles will produce a spread much larger than a solid projectile, it does not preclude the need to aim.

but 1 shot = 1 kill
good mobster - dead mobster
for me using slug not big problem because i have practice more then 50 000 shot ipsc methodic



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Re: Self Defence Ammo Advise for 12 Bore

Postby MAGNUM » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:39 pm

Thanks ,so 4.8 & BB seem to be the best choices




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