My New SDB Apache SE

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My New SDB Apache SE

Post by soumen » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:47 pm

Dear Friends....
Inspired by Big Daddy's review of Classic SE , I kept on searching for same gun.....but never got that as that was a prototype only.
Later I understood that the same AR has come up with some more features and now called as SDB ApacheSE.
Look like traditional Diana 35 and with rubber butt pad.
This AR is neither heavy nor light ...... just 3.4 kgs.
Balance is far superior then my Aimco and Can- on.
Strangely it started hitting target from very first shot , unlike others who take some shots to get settled.
Cocking was noisy but not very hard.
It moderately dieselled for 10-15 shots and after that no smoke could be traced.
I used two pellets, Unitedshot Dyna Special 14.5 grns and Unitedshot Power Ranger round head 12 grns.
Both the above pellets found to be perfect fit and Power Ranger offered vicious velocity.
Least vibration is another feature of this gun ever with such power. I remember Big Daddy had also mentioned about it.
Specialty of ApacheSE is its adjustable trigger pull.Trigger can be softened or hardened by adjusting the screw. This is wonderful.
Recently I tuned Apache with synthetic seal and moly.
Now I discover a new gun , far better than earlier one.
The irritating cocking noise is gone.
Trigger is far more easy ,softer and smooth like butter.
The power seems to have increased.
The vibration further reduced.
It is fitted with company spring only.
After tuning I find SE as a whole new gun and had I not tuned it , could never be able to know how superior gun it is.
velocity testing is done with F1 Light Chrony, following results with stock spring.

With 14.5 grns Unitedshot Dyna Pointed special :
Max- 611 FPS or 12 ft/lbs
Min – 582 FPS or 10.9 ft/lbs.

With 12 grns Unitedshot RH Power Ranger :
Max- 673 FPS or 12.07 ft/lbs
Min- 652 FPS or 11.3 ft/lbs.

The grouping after tuning, grouping found to be within 0.5”with USRH 12 grns at 10 yds.
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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by Big Daddy » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:53 pm

Great going. You will find this gun amazing.
Congratulations on your purchase

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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by anoop » Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:16 pm

Dear Soumen congrats for getting appache se. pl share where you puchased it and how much for. also contact number of seller thanks Anoop

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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by Lawman » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:00 am

Hi Soumen,

Congratulation for your new AR. I got the 2nd prototype. The air rifle is excellent. Enjoy shooting :-D

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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by s_sharma » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:29 am

Hi Soumen,
Congrats for getting this superb gun.From where you could buy it and at what price. Thanks.

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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by brihacharan » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:00 am

soumen wrote:Dear Friends....
Inspired by Big Daddy's review of Classic SE , I kept on searching for same gun.....but never got that as that was a prototype only.
Later I understood that the same AR has come up with some more features and now called as SDB ApacheSE.
Look like traditional Diana 35 and with rubber butt pad.
This AR is neither heavy nor light but just in-between ,may be 3.7 kgs.
Balance is far superior then my Aimco and Can- on.
Strangely it started hitting target from very first shot , unlike others who take some shots to get settled.
Cocking was noisy but not very hard.
It moderately dieselled for 10-15 shots and after that no smoke could be traced.
I used two pellets, Unitedshot Dyna Special 14.5 grns and Unitedshot Power Ranger round head 12 grns.
Both the above pellets found to be perfect fit and Power Ranger offered vicious velocity.
Least vibration is another feature of this gun ever with such power. I remember Big Daddy had also mentioned about it.
Specialty of ApacheSE is its adjustable trigger pull.Trigger can be softened or hardened by adjusting the screw. This is wonderful.
Recently I tuned Apache with synthetic seal and moly.
Now I discover a new gun , far better than earlier one.
The irritating cocking noise is gone.
Trigger is far more easy ,softer and smooth like butter.
The power seems to have increased.
The vibration further reduced.
It is fitted with company spring only.
After tuning I find SE as a whole new gun and had I not tuned it , could never be able to know how superior gun it is.
velocity testing is done with F1 Light Chrony, following results with stock spring.

With 14.5 grns Unitedshot Dyna Pointed special :
Max- 611 FPS or 12 ft/lbs
Min – 582 FPS or 10.9 ft/lbs.

With 12 grns Unitedshot RH Power Ranger :
Max- 673 FPS or 12.07 ft/lbs
Min- 652 FPS or 11.3 ft/lbs.

The grouping after tuning, grouping found to be within 0.5”with USRH 12 grns at 10 yds.
IMG-20151023-WA0004.jpg
Soumen
Truly heartening to know that a few minor changes has brought about some excellent advantages :D
please do post some pics of the AR!
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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by Basu » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:23 pm

Dear Soumen,
The ApacheSE is an excellent AR in given price.
Hope once the spring beds in , velocity will improve by 6-7 yds.
The grouping at 10 yds , may not be best but not bad either.
I expect after 500 shots ,grouping will further tighten even with Unitedshot Power Ranger.
I advice you to use only Power Ranger as economical pellet because that goes quite well with SDB barrels.

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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by soumen » Fri Oct 30, 2015 12:56 pm

Dear friends....

Thanks a lot to all..
I got it from GREAT EASTERN FIREARMS Co. (Kolkata)
C/o. Sanjit Biswas (98311 89107)

I must post some pictures very soon.

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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by Basu » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:15 pm

Dear Soumen ,
where are the pics ?

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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by anubhav_rulez » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:06 pm

Hi All,
I've also got myself the same gun...one of the finest Indian AR I've shot. Straight shooter out of the box, I was able to take off medicine tab from ten meters and still its not tuned, so little noisy while cocking. Will soon try to get it tuned and post pics.
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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by GNV » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:10 pm

Why SDB is still using leather piston seals in their new models. After all synthetic seals are not expensive to make. And why all air gun manufacturers except Precihole Sports don't use moly to lubricate their guns in the first place instead of oil. The little amount of moly required to lubricate an air gun for one time is not so expensive either. :roll:

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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by soumen » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:58 pm

Sorry friends for so late.........
actually i was bit busy about my job, anyway...I am posting some photo ..
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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by SMJ » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:49 am

Hello Soumen, thank you for this review, seems to be a lovely Air Rifle and must be such a pleasure to shoot. I am still absorbing as much as I can from reviews such as these, however I do have one question- the last picture it seems is a collection of all your air rifles -there seems to be a noticeable barrel droop on the SDB compared to the others, is my observation correct or is it because of the placement of the guns and the angle at which the picture is taken that I am imagining a barrel droop (if at all)?

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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by brihacharan » Fri Nov 20, 2015 11:09 am

SMJ wrote:Hello Soumen, thank you for this review, seems to be a lovely Air Rifle and must be such a pleasure to shoot. I am still absorbing as much as I can from reviews such as these, however I do have one question- the last picture it seems is a collection of all your air rifles -there seems to be a noticeable barrel droop on the SDB compared to the others, is my observation correct or is it because of the placement of the guns and the angle at which the picture is taken that I am imagining a barrel droop (if at all)?
Read the link given below ....will help you to understand 'Barrel Droop' :D
Barrel droop | Air gun blog - Pyramyd Air Report
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/01/barrel-droop/
Jan 16, 2006 - Barrel droop is a phrase that I believe was coined by Tim McMurray to describe the air-gun barrel that points downward in relation to the top of.......

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Re: My New SDB Apache SE

Post by soumen » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:40 pm

Dear SMJ,
You are correct...there are some barrel droop, but not noticeable, as you look the first picture , did you notice anything? may be I have taken the last picture from wrong angle .

Soumen

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