shooter wrote:adityang wrote:5) Best minds of forest officials ??? no further comments
dear aditya nag.
either you have einstiens mind (not that einstien was a wildlife expert) or you have actually seen the british and oz wildlife dept make serious blunders and act as bufoons. or you havent read the post correctly and assume i am talking about some other country. if none of these then pray explain why rolling on the floor?
over here, hunting is not the first step to control population of all the species. some species are pest species. others can become pests like deer. in that case one has to try other methods like fencing etc. you will be surprised at what a herd of deer can do to a fence if they cant jump over it. they break/bend it with sheer weight (collective). then one has to try other means like scaring them off etc etc. culling is the last resort but it is not ignored. if its needed then it is.
if u think the only difference in hunting and poaching are legal aspects then you dont know anything bout gamekeeping, feeders, drives, arranging drives, butts, controlled burning, pest control, quotas, seasons, culling.
in this case its not ur fault as i said people in india esp your generation is not exposed to shikar and think poaching is hunting. if ure willing, people here can tell u about these and then you can decide.
experts from all the un member nations attend CITES convocation and decide which species can be hunted, regulated etc and which species is endangered/rare etc.
please start rolling on the floor as representatives and experts from 160 odd countries have meeting and decide this of course they are so insignificant that they dont even deserve a quote from you.
while you are rolling on the floor laughing, the population of wild animals is on the increase in uk, oz, nz, us, canada, eu nations. how amusing what these foolish people can accomplish. please continue your rolling; it is doing these populations good.
i want to share a story with all of you. i am a mod on ifg orkut. i was contacted by this person who kept on insisting that i am shooting endangered birds (phesants). i tried my best to tell him phesants are not endangered and that he should look up the definition of endangered but he wouldnt listen. i told him about CITES and game keeping but he insisted that if i continued, phesants would become extinct!!
he wouldnt understand what gamekeeping was and kept insisting he knew all about it.
by the way are you an anti who will oppose hunting no matter what or a newbie who is willing to listen/learn from people who just might know a bit more about hunting than you and then reach a conclusion about where you stand?
if its the latter please say so and well be happy to talk and share if ure the former then we will still talk but like a debate.
I was under the impression that you were talking about India (since the topic was abt India). I have already clarified that I am not totally averse to hunting provided all other measures are tried. I am not at all surprised how some animals jump over tallest fences, deepest trenches. I have personally had this experiences with Gaurs. Monkeys are another very big menaces. But nobody here hunts monkeys (because of religious sentiments). It brings fore the question, if they can tolerate one kind of animal and learn to live with this, why it is not possible with others?
When I say poaching and hunting are same, I am talking about the killing. There are some sensible theories which say that gamekeeping or other management techniques increase the population of games thus giving raise to various problems. Also, my views against hunting are not entirely focused on whether species being hunted is endangered or not. It is about taking away one life, having fun at the expense of some one's suffering.
I agree that I am totally unaware of how you hunt in UK, but I am willing to know reasons behind it. But what about yourself? Where do you stand on hunting? are you one of pro-hunting guys who tweak and distort facts to justify it? who think animals are for getting killed by humans? or whether you too are open to agree that hunting may not fit current societal values and may be are outdated and unwanted if sufficient arguments are put forward?
By the way, my name is Aditya NG (full name is Aditya Nanditale Gurumurthy Jagarabhatta), not Aditya Nag, but you are free to use whatever suits you.