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Re: Air pistol for Self Defence

Postby xl_target » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:46 am

Frosty wrote:Given a situation that the Originator of this thread Mr Autobot is carrying a Co2 action pistol say in range of 430-480 Fps with a 8 shot rotatory clip type mag and Mr Autobot finds himself in the middle of a situation and decides to pull out his killing machine and lays 3 to 4 shots with in 2 secs right on his attacker'"s face(which is not impossible with a pellet gun), it can be effective to the tune that the attacker if not ready with his arm atleast may get a little dillusional because of the blood gushing out of various holes on his skin or he may be severly injured his eye eyes could be squashed with a pellet. This may at least give Mr autobot valuable seconds to flee the spot like a rocket and save his ar*e

In no way this is to promote the "Air gun Defence " sentiment, just trying to give Mr Autobot's thoughts a perspective. :lol:


I understand that you are not promoting the idea of carrying an air pistol for self defense but for many reasons, most of them posted here, the idea of carrying an air pistol for self defense is downright stupid. Don't even consider it.

In a self defense situation or indeed any situation where the shooter is under stress, aiming for the eye or even the entire head is just so much so much hogwash. The human body reacts to stressful situations by flooding the body with large amounts of adrenaline. There is nothing the average person can do about it. A massive dose of adrenaline cause most people to react in a certain way.
1. you will lose your fine motor skills; just deploying the gun and pulling the trigger in time, can be a challenge at times like this.
2. at the short distances that most self-defense encounters occur, you will have very little time to react, aimed shots are going to be a luxury. You will be lucky to hit the center of mass (COM) on your target. Real life is not Hollywood.
3. you will suffer from tunnel vision and auditory occlucion, you most likely will only be able to concentrate on one threat at time.
3. since you will not be able to do much more than get off a few hurried shots and not do any disabling damage, more than likely, you are going to seriously piss off the attacker/s who will take it out of your hide.
As for the OP's mentioning of the Mumbai attacks. Please! You want to go up against AK47 toting terrorists with an air pistol?
Please do not even consider an air pistol as a self defense tool.

If you have no weapons, or even if you do, your best tactic to deal with a life threatening situation is not to be there. Or if by some mischance you are there, then it is best to remember and implement Zombieland's Rule No. 1: Cardio. In other words...... Run!
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Re: Air pistol for Self Defence

Postby Ace_doc » Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:21 am

Frosty wrote:Given a situation that the Originator of this thread Mr Autobot is carrying a Co2 action pistol say in range of 430-480 Fps with a 8 shot rotatory clip type mag and Mr Autobot finds himself in the middle of a situation and decides to pull out his killing machine and lays 3 to 4 shots with in 2 secs right on his attacker'"s face(which is not impossible with a pellet gun), it can be effective to the tune that the attacker if not ready with his arm atleast may get a little dillusional because of the blood gushing out of various holes on his skin or he may be severly injured his eye eyes could be squashed with a pellet. This may at least give Mr autobot valuable seconds to flee the spot like a rocket and save his ar*e

In no way this is to promote the "Air gun Defence " sentiment, just trying to give Mr Autobot's thoughts a perspective. :lol:

and lets say that the guy just wanted the goods but the bee stings inflicted by the co2 pistol push a guy high on booze or more into a frenzy. .375 have failed to put down guys when on a high. also initially he was waving his knife around but seeing the "gun" he pulls out his countrymade aka katta and lets off a .315!
did u think about that part of the equation?
please get a gun. or obey rule number mentioned in above post.



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Re: Air pistol for Self Defence

Postby ngrewal » Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:50 pm

Ace_doc wrote:
Frosty wrote:Given a situation that the Originator of this thread Mr Autobot is carrying a Co2 action pistol say in range of 430-480 Fps with a 8 shot rotatory clip type mag and Mr Autobot finds himself in the middle of a situation and decides to pull out his killing machine and lays 3 to 4 shots with in 2 secs right on his attacker'"s face(which is not impossible with a pellet gun), it can be effective to the tune that the attacker if not ready with his arm atleast may get a little dillusional because of the blood gushing out of various holes on his skin or he may be severly injured his eye eyes could be squashed with a pellet. This may at least give Mr autobot valuable seconds to flee the spot like a rocket and save his ar*e

In no way this is to promote the "Air gun Defence " sentiment, just trying to give Mr Autobot's thoughts a perspective. :lol:

and lets say that the guy just wanted the goods but the bee stings inflicted by the co2 pistol push a guy high on booze or more into a frenzy. .375 have failed to put down guys when on a high. also initially he was waving his knife around but seeing the "gun" he pulls out his countrymade aka katta and lets off a .315!
did u think about that part of the equation?
please get a gun. or obey rule number mentioned in above post.


:agree: This board has specifically warned members not to indulge is such crazy and ridiculous arguments using air guns etc for such situation is fool hardy unsafe precisely the scenario explained by Ace_doc above..its better to walk away or have alternate action plan even when owning a firearm using it or brandishing is THE last resort from there on its touch and go



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Re: Air pistol for Self Defence

Postby dev » Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:09 am

Believe me you don't want to stare down the barrel of a .315 and hear a yokel growling,"Make my day...do you feel lucky punk...in all the damn excitement I forgot whether I shot five or six?"
Even the worst of IOFB is a better option than stinging your opponent to a killing frenzy.
Be safe.

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Re: Air pistol for Self Defence

Postby varunik » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:16 pm

I personally do think that an Airgun will be effective, if you are able ro shoot him in his eye or groin.
Its better to shoot at groin.
It wont kill him but demobilize him.

Anyways hand tohand self defence is best. Kick at balls. Pressing the eyes. Punch at groin. Slapping ears hard.


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Re: Air pistol for Self Defence

Postby goodboy_mentor » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:51 pm

Airgun pellet does not have sufficient energy. On the contrary it is not going to stop a violently enraged attacker by shooting in eyes and groin etc. Neither one has the time or liesure to accurately place shots into the eyes etc. when under stress. It is not going to work in real situation. All this usually "works" in movies.


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Re: Air pistol for Self Defence

Postby maverick786us » Thu May 17, 2012 1:43 pm

raj wrote:shotgun would be far more cheaper than handgun...you can pick a nice shotgun for around13-14k...(12gauge or 16gauge).handguns would be costlier...

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Which shotgun? The double barrel? How much would a pump action shotgun cost?



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Re: Air pistol for Self Defence

Postby Buddhookid » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:49 pm

Self defense with airpistol ... Hehe (no disrespect to any1)
R u going to keep an loaded airpistol with you ... You might shooturself while gettin it out in a situation like this or how gonna think you gonna load or reload it ... The goon might laugh his pants off seeing you loading an airpistol in front of him hehehehe

And CO2 pistols dont come in cheap if you offer that money to your threat he might become a good friend of yours ;)

The only way you can save urself with an airpistol is shoot urself 1st n start dancing like real crazy infront of him :D he might leave you :p


My Dear real goons are not afraid of toys and its illegal to shoot ur bullying classfellows or tutionmates ... so how gonna selfdefense with it



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Re: Air pistol for Self Defence

Postby Mark » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:37 am

An air pistol would be a pretty good home defense weapon if you tied it to a cricket bat and hit the intruder with it.

Otherwise, not so good.


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