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Army hunts for new sniper rifle to replace Russian Dragunov

Post by mundaire » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:39 pm

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Army hunts for new sniper rifle to replace Russian Dragunov
By Manu Pubby, ET Bureau | Updated: Dec 08, 2016

NEW DELHI: The Indian Army is hunting for a new sniper rifle for the infantry which will have considerably more range, fire power and accuracy than the existing inventory, giving soldiers on the borders an edge over the enemy.

Proposals have been invited from global manufacturers to present modern sniper rifles that can take down targets at a range of 1200 metres with highly accurate 8.6 mm bullets – a new standard which has much more stopping power than the 7.62 mm rounds being used at present.

In a request for information, the Army has spelt out its need for over 5,000 new sniper rifles — to be assigned to infantry units that are primarily stationed along the border — and the specifications mean that these would have 50% more range than the currently used Russian Dragunov rifles.

The extra range can be the difference between life and death on the border, particularly on the line of control where soldiers are posted within visual range of each other in mountainous terrain. The escalation in violence on the border has hastened several procurement plans of the Army.

There have been at least three cases of fatal casualties on the Indian side through sniper fire in the past few months. The request for information is the first stage of procurement and tenders are likely to be issued by June next year. The Army has also asked manufacturers for information on whether the rifles required can be manufactured in India as part of a joint venture or through a transfer of license.

This information is needed for the Army to ‘categorise’ the purchase. As per the new procurement policy, only those weapon systems that cannot be made in India would be procured from international sources.

In the case of the sniper rifle, however, the numbers required may not be adequate to produce the weapon in India in a cost beneficial manner. The Army has been trying to procure a new set of weapons for the infantry — the largest warfighting arm of the military.
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Re: Army hunts for new sniper rifle to replace Russian Dragunov

Post by sam 47 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:57 pm

8.6 mm, would that be the .338 lapua magnum? as far as i can remember the longest confirmed kill by a sniper was made by this round , and i think is used in the AWM system sniper rifles. good to know army is getting decent rifles al LOC. (y)
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Re: Army hunts for new sniper rifle to replace Russian Dragunov

Post by alameinite » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:30 pm

Dragunov's plus point has been its flexibilty to be used in varied terrains and environments, which suited the Indian Army operating in forests,mountains and deserts. However, various drawbacks of this systems were, firstly ,its pathetic telescopic sight mounting brackets,which restrict use of any better or high powered scopes and thus,limited range. Secondly, extremely poor Night vision support systems. Thirdly, no support or provisions for suppressors. Lastly,among several others, limited availability of high grade imported ammunition,especially for special Sniper training.
So,lets wait and watch, Galil, Sig Sauer, HK....the list goes on.
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Re: Army hunts for new sniper rifle to replace Russian Dragunov

Post by xl_target » Fri Dec 23, 2016 10:49 am

alameinite wrote:Dragunov's plus point has been its flexibilty to be used in varied terrains and environments, which suited the Indian Army operating in forests,mountains and deserts. However, various drawbacks of this systems were, firstly ,its pathetic telescopic sight mounting brackets,which restrict use of any better or high powered scopes and thus,limited range. Secondly, extremely poor Night vision support systems. Thirdly, no support or provisions for suppressors. Lastly,among several others, limited availability of high grade imported ammunition,especially for special Sniper training.
So,lets wait and watch, Galil, Sig Sauer, HK....the list goes on.
You forgot one attribute of the Dragunov: compared to some of the specialized rifles used for sniping by military snipers today, the Dragunov is quite inaccurate even with the specialized ammo created for it (Silver tipped 147 gr light ball ammo). A one MOA Dragunov is about as real as an Unicorn.
Also, a semi auto military rifle just won't have the tolerances that a specialized bolt gun can have. This affects accuracy at distance.

Another fact is that the 7.62 X 54mmR cartridge doesn't have anything close to the ballistics of something like the 300 Winchester Magnum, 338 Lapua Magnum cartridge or the 50 BMG (which has been quite successfully used in the anti-personnel role).

Maybe even more telling is that the Russian Alpha Group counter-terrorism unit and SOBR use the .338 Lapua magnum round in the Accuracy International (AWM-F) rifle, when they could have any version of the SVD they wanted.
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