9mm revolvers

[mundaire]

Thanks for the link penpusher, what do you think about the following paragraphs -

The Astra 400 is rather unique. Although it was chambered for a full-powered 9mm round, the 9mm Largo, also known as the 9mm Bergmann-Bayard, it is designed around a simple blowback-operated action. In short, there is no locking mechanism, simply a very strong, coiled spring that encircles the barrel. Even more intriguing, the Astra was promoted heavily by Interarms as a pistol that could fire any 9mm rimless auto cartridge interchangeably. Indeed, it almost can since it is blessed with a forgiving chamber, long firing pin, and strong extractor.

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Frankly, while the Model 400 will feed, chamber, fire and extract cartridges like the 9mm Luger and .380, it's not a sound practice unless it's an emergency. There is still plenty of Largo military ball floating around. Starline offers new 9mm Largo brass for reloading, and Hornady is currently loading the 9mm Steyr, which is very similar in dimensions to the Largo and works fine.

This with other comments in the article seem to lead to the conclusion that, while this pistol is capable of chambering and firing 9mm para ammunition; this capability may not be built into other pistols chambered for this calibre. Which brings me to my next question - were there ANY other pistols built for this calibre? I can't seem to find any...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[penpusher]

Try this link http://www.9mmlargo.com/

[Edmond]

Hello,
There is the Ruger Speed Six in 9x19.

[penpusher]

Edmond,

How does the extractor work on this one?Any problem with pierced primers or light strikes?

[rcdoma]

Charter Arms is coming out with revolvers which use a spring to engage the extractor grooves in rimless cartridges: http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/CARR.html . These might work better with the IOF 9mm ammo than the pistols govt issues .

[kishore]

hi friends,
i am always fond of having a 9mm pistol can anyone help me out in getting it

[The Doc]

i am always fond of having a 9mm pistol can anyone help me out in getting it

9mm is a Prohibited bore for civilians . You can possess a 9mm firearm if you can manage to obtain a "P" bore license. (I am presuming that you are a civilian and not in armed forces.).

best,

R.

[m24]

Went though the whole thread and couldn't find an answer to one question.

The book Cartridges of the World stated in 2006, the 9x19mm Parabellum is "the world's most popular and widely used military handgun cartridge."

Source: Wikipedia

Why then aren't there any or rather many revolvers of the 9x19mm Parabellum??

Regards

[mundaire]

Why then aren't there any or rather many revolvers of the 9x19mm Parabellum??

For the same reason you don't see "any or rather many" revolvers chambered for other rimless cartridges...

[MoA]

Rimless cartriddges in a revolver require more complex cylinders or the use of clips. This is why revolvers are typically in rimmed cartridge chamberings.

You want a rimless cartridge go with a pistol, fewer headaches.
You want a 9x19 caliber handgun, the easiest way would be to move to a country that allows it. Or be very famous and rich.

[m24]

Thanks for the info.

Was wondering, hence the query. I'm not planning to move out anywhere, MoA. Nor am I rich and famous. Let's hope in the coming years, with the help of NAGRI, we, poor natives, may be able to fulfill our gun dreams.

Regards

[xl_target]

Why then aren't there any or rather many revolvers of the 9x19mm Parabellum??

To use a rimless cartridge like the 9X19 requires a more complex cylinder as the standard method of ejecting empties wont work (since there is no rim to grab).
This adds to the cost of making the revolver, among other things.

See image below:


Or it would require you to use special clips or adapters:


I hope this answers the questions about why you don't see many revolvers chambered for rimless cartridges

[SARGE7402]

Quite a number of companies made 9MM revolvers. One of the first was the state of Isreal who took their S&W Model 10's (Called Military & Police in 1947) that were chambered for the 38 S&W round and simply rechambered the cylinders.

Ruger, S&W (made one and currently has one for sale) and Taurus have made 9MM revolvers. Those made by Charter Arms in the late 80's were chambered for the 9MM Federal Rimmed which is basicly a 9MM lugar round with a rim like a .38S&W. There is no way to use standard 9MM rounds in the CA.

I've currenly got a Taurus and a CA and both are compact five shot wheel guns.

Understand the Peoples Republic of China are arming their police with a 9MM revolver of similar power to the old webley's

[m24]

Thanks xl and Sarge.

Regards