9mm revolvers

[mundaire]

Civillian in india can not avail of 9mm pistol.

Once again incorrect! See the following list of 9mm pistol calibres (taken from Wikipedia):

9x18mm Ultra
9x17mm Browning Short
9x18mm Police
9 mm Glisenti
9x19mm Parabellum
.357 SIG
9 mm Browning Long
9x21mm IMI
9x23mm Steyr
9 mm Largo
9 mm Mauser Pistol
9 mm Winchester Magnum
.356 TSW
.38 Auto
.38 Super
9x18mm Makarov
9.8 mm Auto Colt

Out of the above list ONLY 9x19mm aka 9mm Parabellum/ Luger is classified as a PB calibre... The rest are ALL under NPB category!

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[badshah0522]

It is understood that IOF manufactures revolvers in .32 cal only

My friend your understanding is wrong ,IOF also make rev in .22 Cal.

[amk]

Thanks Mundaire for that clarification. I hope the licensing authorities agree to this.

Vjha, where are you going to find 38 special ammo? It may be more difficult to procure than 357 magnum too.

AMK

[mundaire]

Thanks Mundaire for that clarification. I hope the licensing authorities agree to this.

AMK, it's the law - they have no choice but to agree with it... if they are ignorant of the details, just give them the information... what else can I say <shrugs>

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[vjha55]

I tell you what, authorities supposed to enter a firearm on licence know so little---one can take advantage of their ignorance and can,if one wishes, get enered pistol/revolver of any cal so long as it is pistol/revolver.
But a law abiding citizen will certainly not do that and would stick to npb definition of cal as supplied by Abhijit---if for nothing else then at least for his own hasslefre life.

[amk]

James I practice with my 1911 at least once a month if not more. I'm quite confident in handling it or putting it to use in a stressed situation but I hope I never need to.

Jha, I agree with you. These are the same officers who will be called whenever you get in to legal complications for owning a firearm. However, I'd take anything above the .32 if ammo was easy to source.

AMK

[Risala]

Vjha, where are you going to find 38 special ammo? It may be more difficult to procure than 357 magnum too.

AMK

It is unlikely you will get .38 Spl ammo,and .357 was last selling for around Rs 400 a pop for the regular bullet and 600 for Hollow points couple that with a min of 6 to 8 L for a 357 in reasonable condition makes it a lousy proposition.

.380 or 9 mm Short is a better option,ammo is available but again imported and perhaps expensive.

[amk]

.380 ammo in Mumbai is close to 300 bucks a pop. Thanks but no thanks; I'd rather pay 400 for the 357 ammo.

Luckily my 45 acp is now as low as 100 a pop.

AMK

[vjha55]

What about intense recoil of.357 magnum?

[cottage cheese]

What about intense recoil of.357 magnum?

Its substantial no doubt but certainly not a killer. You should be able to master it in a short time.

In this aspect, the smaller concealable 357's are definite brutes since the smaller and lighter frames, coupled with short barrels and thus, increased muzzle blast, serve to increase both felt and perceived recoil significantly.

[penpusher]

The Astra Model 400 in 9mm largo can fire 9mm para and so are calssified as PB.Is 9mm Mauser a different caliber?The ones that I have seen fire the regular 9mm para cartridge.

[cottage cheese]

The Astra Model 400 in 9mm largo can fire 9mm para and so are calssified as PB.Is 9mm Mauser a different caliber?The ones that I have seen fire the regular 9mm para cartridge.

Hi penpusher,

By Mauser, are you meaning the broom-handles? The ones in 9mm would usually have a large figure '9' embossed on wooden grips.... I thought the fired regular 9mm para. Was there a 9x23mm?

[penpusher]

Sorry,I did mean the broom handles.I have seen 2.One had the big red 9 on the grip and the other one did not.Probaly replacement grips.

[mundaire]

The Astra Model 400 in 9mm largo can fire 9mm para and so are calssified as PB.

Are you sure about the 9mm Largo's being able to fire 9mm para? The 9mm Largo has a longer length (23.11 vs. 19.15) slimmer base (9.90 vs. 9.93) narrower neck (9.52 vs. 9.65) and lastly a shorter OAL (28.75 vs. 29.69). They share the same bullet dia (9.02) and cartridge rim (9.96), but the other dimensions are different...

Is 9mm Mauser a different caliber?The ones that I have seen fire the regular 9mm para cartridge.

The 9 mm Mauser Pistol is the 9x25 mm a different beast from the 9mm Para (9x19). However it seems that production ceased around 1914. The "Red Nines" were indeed chambered for the 9mm Para (9x19) cartridge. Just found the following thread, check it out -

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/inde ... 40123.html

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[penpusher]

The Astra Model 400 in 9mm largo can fire 9mm para and so are calssified as PB.

Are you sure about the 9mm Largo's being able to fire 9mm para? The 9mm Largo has a longer length (23.11 vs. 19.15) slimmer base (9.90 vs. 9.93) narrower neck (9.52 vs. 9.65) and lastly a shorter OAL (28.75 vs. 29.69). They share the same bullet dia (9.02) and cartridge rim (9.96), but the other dimensions are different...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Try this link http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-142634659.html

Thanks for the info on the 9X25 Mauser pistol