Re: New made in india pistol of .32 calibre by AHT called stallion is out in the market.
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:52 am
My ammunition recommendations for 32 Auto (or any other chambering, for that matter):
If you have spent the money and effort to acquire a pistol, and if your pistol is to be used for self-defense, I recommend that you purchase the best ammo you can find for the purpose. As I also carry a 32 Auto, I've invested a lot of time in researching those who have investigated the use of 32 Auto in a carry pistol. You can view available data on ammunition performance here:
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/the- ... f-defense/
When viewing this information, don't forget to note that there are two sets of data: one for short barreled pistols and one for long barreled pistols. Be sure to compare the data that relates to your gun.
Summarizing my views on this and other data, I think that the Fiocchi 71 grain FMJ ammo is the best for carry. I used to carry 60 grain Corbon hollow points, until I read this article and others like it. It's clear that a low powered cartridge like 32 Auto doesn't have the power to penetrate and expand at the same time. I will always choose penetration over expansion. This, for me, is borne out in real life by the accounts of people killing grizzly bears with 9mm and 38 Special handguns.
The FBI's determination that 12 inches (305 mm) of penetration is the minimum necessary in a self-defense situation came about after a deadly encounter with two goons robbing a bank who were wearing body armor. Due to the fatalities of both goons and law enforcement, the FBI commissioned an in-depth study of what was needed to stop deadly attacks, with regard to side arms. It was determined that 12 inches of penetration was the minimum acceptable standard.
Something to keep in mind is that ammo made in the USA meets SAAMI standards, and that made in Europe meets CIP standards. The differences between these two standards vary by cartridge, but for 32 Auto, the CIP standard operates at several thousand pounds per square inch more than SAAMI ammo does, resulting in faster bullets and deeper penetration.
Therefore, I carry Fiocchi ammo in my pistol when I can find it, or some other European ammo. Right now, I also have a few boxes of RWS and a few of PPU ("Prvi Partizan"). All of this ammo is difficult for me to find now.
This means that I need at least 15 rounds of European ammo for carry. I don't think that the most expensive ammo is needed for practice. For practice, suitably accurate ammo is necessary that also give similar recoil to the carry ammo, which means that the ammo is fairly "hot," as well.
Ammo that is not accurate will teach you NOTHING by using it for practice, because you won't be able to gauge your performance on the target by shooting it. Shooting inaccurate ammo is a waste of time and money, no matter how much it costs. My own solution here is two-fold: Firstly, I will began casting my own bullets this summer and will load them up to a similar power level to my carry ammo. This is a solution that members in India won't be able to use, unfortunately. Secondly, soon I will go to a different pistol and caliber. I'll use the same solution for it, carrying the best ammo and practicing with my own cast bullet reloads, and none of this would apply to India.
My bottom line recommendation is to get the best European ammo for carry and good, accurate ammo for practice. Again, if you've spent the time and money to get a pistol in the first place, it makes no sense to get poorly performing ammo at any price. Your life isn't worth the savings.
If you have spent the money and effort to acquire a pistol, and if your pistol is to be used for self-defense, I recommend that you purchase the best ammo you can find for the purpose. As I also carry a 32 Auto, I've invested a lot of time in researching those who have investigated the use of 32 Auto in a carry pistol. You can view available data on ammunition performance here:
https://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/the- ... f-defense/
When viewing this information, don't forget to note that there are two sets of data: one for short barreled pistols and one for long barreled pistols. Be sure to compare the data that relates to your gun.
Summarizing my views on this and other data, I think that the Fiocchi 71 grain FMJ ammo is the best for carry. I used to carry 60 grain Corbon hollow points, until I read this article and others like it. It's clear that a low powered cartridge like 32 Auto doesn't have the power to penetrate and expand at the same time. I will always choose penetration over expansion. This, for me, is borne out in real life by the accounts of people killing grizzly bears with 9mm and 38 Special handguns.
The FBI's determination that 12 inches (305 mm) of penetration is the minimum necessary in a self-defense situation came about after a deadly encounter with two goons robbing a bank who were wearing body armor. Due to the fatalities of both goons and law enforcement, the FBI commissioned an in-depth study of what was needed to stop deadly attacks, with regard to side arms. It was determined that 12 inches of penetration was the minimum acceptable standard.
Something to keep in mind is that ammo made in the USA meets SAAMI standards, and that made in Europe meets CIP standards. The differences between these two standards vary by cartridge, but for 32 Auto, the CIP standard operates at several thousand pounds per square inch more than SAAMI ammo does, resulting in faster bullets and deeper penetration.
Therefore, I carry Fiocchi ammo in my pistol when I can find it, or some other European ammo. Right now, I also have a few boxes of RWS and a few of PPU ("Prvi Partizan"). All of this ammo is difficult for me to find now.
This means that I need at least 15 rounds of European ammo for carry. I don't think that the most expensive ammo is needed for practice. For practice, suitably accurate ammo is necessary that also give similar recoil to the carry ammo, which means that the ammo is fairly "hot," as well.
Ammo that is not accurate will teach you NOTHING by using it for practice, because you won't be able to gauge your performance on the target by shooting it. Shooting inaccurate ammo is a waste of time and money, no matter how much it costs. My own solution here is two-fold: Firstly, I will began casting my own bullets this summer and will load them up to a similar power level to my carry ammo. This is a solution that members in India won't be able to use, unfortunately. Secondly, soon I will go to a different pistol and caliber. I'll use the same solution for it, carrying the best ammo and practicing with my own cast bullet reloads, and none of this would apply to India.
My bottom line recommendation is to get the best European ammo for carry and good, accurate ammo for practice. Again, if you've spent the time and money to get a pistol in the first place, it makes no sense to get poorly performing ammo at any price. Your life isn't worth the savings.
