Handling recoil
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:43 pm
For those worried about recoil of a .45 ACP pistol
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Re: Handling recoil
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:26 pm
Very cool!, impressive shooting by that kid. Thanks for sharing.
Re: Handling recoil
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:54 am
Good for her! More women should get involved in shooting, and the younger, the better!
Massad Ayoob said that he carried a 1911 as his first handgun, when working in his father's jewelry store.
Some can do it -- some can't. But it's hard to know until you give it a fair trial for yourself.
I have been out to the range much more lately, and I find that shooting my 1911 with a one hand hold to be easier and more comfortable than shooting my Star 9mm (Chinese Tok knockoff) with two hands.
As "they" (whoever they are) say, "your mileage may vary."
Massad Ayoob said that he carried a 1911 as his first handgun, when working in his father's jewelry store.
Some can do it -- some can't. But it's hard to know until you give it a fair trial for yourself.
I have been out to the range much more lately, and I find that shooting my 1911 with a one hand hold to be easier and more comfortable than shooting my Star 9mm (Chinese Tok knockoff) with two hands.
As "they" (whoever they are) say, "your mileage may vary."
Re: Handling recoil
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:13 am
The kid handles better than many adults here. The availability and cost of ammunition should not be ignored when it comes to target practice. Thumbs up 
for the share.
for the share.Re: Handling recoil
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:09 pm
Great shooting. Perhaps the secret lies in the grip?
Re: Handling recoil
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:02 pm
Re: Handling recoil
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:40 am
Here are two 10 minute videos that address recoil in handguns and the effect of recoil on where the bullet lands and what you actually feel when shooting. Both pistols and revolvers are analyzed in these videos. Also, the difference between the felt recoil of blowback action pistols, versus short recoil action pistols (i.e., locked breech).
Both videos use very slow motion video to track the bullet's leaving the barrel and the action of recoil in the shooter's hand. Watch them -- you may be surprised at what actually happens.
Observations from the videos:
1. Given the same weight of pistol and the same ammunition load, blowback pistols have more felt recoil that locked breech pistols. (Blowback pistols are sometimes noted as "whippier" to shoot.)
2. Revolvers, with a higher bore axis above the holding hand, are more affected by recoil, both in point of aim and what is felt.
Comments:
1. Practice can certainly help in dealing with recoil, which is a definite problem with the limited ammo quota allowed.
2. Some people are able to handle recoil better than others. This can be due to one's physical attributes, one's mental outlook, or both in some combination. There are workarounds for the former, such as technique, coaching, and practice, and workarounds for the latter, such as technique, coaching, and practice. Ny opinion regarding these matters is like handgun shooting in general: it's not an exact or "black and white" matter. Just like one can never hold the handgun perfectly steady on the target, but only become more consistent in aligning the sight picture with trigger technique and holding the handgun, technique, coaching, and practice can help one approach perfection, but nobody will arrive. Like playing a musical instrument, some are inherently better than others at shooting a handgun, but improvement is almost always possible if one wants to do so.
3. Air gun pistol shooting can help improve some handgun shooting skills.
4. You won't know how well you can do with any gun, be it shotgun, rifle, or handgun, until you make a significant effort to try and master them.
Both videos use very slow motion video to track the bullet's leaving the barrel and the action of recoil in the shooter's hand. Watch them -- you may be surprised at what actually happens.
Observations from the videos:
1. Given the same weight of pistol and the same ammunition load, blowback pistols have more felt recoil that locked breech pistols. (Blowback pistols are sometimes noted as "whippier" to shoot.)
2. Revolvers, with a higher bore axis above the holding hand, are more affected by recoil, both in point of aim and what is felt.
Comments:
1. Practice can certainly help in dealing with recoil, which is a definite problem with the limited ammo quota allowed.
2. Some people are able to handle recoil better than others. This can be due to one's physical attributes, one's mental outlook, or both in some combination. There are workarounds for the former, such as technique, coaching, and practice, and workarounds for the latter, such as technique, coaching, and practice. Ny opinion regarding these matters is like handgun shooting in general: it's not an exact or "black and white" matter. Just like one can never hold the handgun perfectly steady on the target, but only become more consistent in aligning the sight picture with trigger technique and holding the handgun, technique, coaching, and practice can help one approach perfection, but nobody will arrive. Like playing a musical instrument, some are inherently better than others at shooting a handgun, but improvement is almost always possible if one wants to do so.
3. Air gun pistol shooting can help improve some handgun shooting skills.
4. You won't know how well you can do with any gun, be it shotgun, rifle, or handgun, until you make a significant effort to try and master them.
Re: Handling recoil
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:34 pm
Remarkable child. A lesson to many. Utopia, if this becomes the norm in India. Lovely video.
Re: Handling recoil
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:37 am
Excellent videos and post Timmy.
The recoil in an auto pistol may not alter the point of aim but it does affect the ability of the shooter to quickly put in an accurate second shot. An absolutely vital requirement for combat shooting. That is the reason why Special Forces even in the US shifted from the 45 ACP to the 9 mm.
BTW that video of the girl shooting the 10 mm looks doctored to me. Probably she is using low powered loads. Observe the way she pulls back the slide to load the pistol. Even the muzzle jump is different for different shots and in some cases way too less for a little girls hold unless she has exceptionally strong wrists and forearms.
The recoil in an auto pistol may not alter the point of aim but it does affect the ability of the shooter to quickly put in an accurate second shot. An absolutely vital requirement for combat shooting. That is the reason why Special Forces even in the US shifted from the 45 ACP to the 9 mm.
BTW that video of the girl shooting the 10 mm looks doctored to me. Probably she is using low powered loads. Observe the way she pulls back the slide to load the pistol. Even the muzzle jump is different for different shots and in some cases way too less for a little girls hold unless she has exceptionally strong wrists and forearms.