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Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:21 am
by drag73
As we are all aware, arms dealers in cities in the south charge atleast 20 to 25% more compared to their counterparts in say Punjab or U.P or others, for reasons best known to them. Is it possible to get weapons or ammunition shipped to South Indian cities against your license? It will save thousands and sometimes lakhs of rupees....please advice.

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:56 am
by Vineet
drag73 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:21 am
As we are all aware, arms dealers in cities in the south charge atleast 20 to 25% more compared to their counterparts in say Punjab or U.P or others, for reasons best known to them. Is it possible to get weapons or ammunition shipped to South Indian cities against your license? It will save thousands and sometimes lakhs of rupees....please advice.
Arms Rules 2016 says that a dealer can send arms and ammunitions to other dealer via transport companies. If the deal is within the state then only invoice is required and if it’s out of the state then NOC and Transport license are required.

Nothing is mentioned in Arms Act/ Rules regarding direct sale to customer via shipping/ transport companies even after having proper documents like NOC and TL. Actually signatures of the customer is needed in bill book and registers.

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:04 pm
by Woods
drag73 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:21 am
As we are all aware, arms dealers in cities in the south charge atleast 20 to 25% more compared to their counterparts in say Punjab or U.P or others, for reasons best known to them. Is it possible to get weapons or ammunition shipped to South Indian cities against your license? It will save thousands and sometimes lakhs of rupees....please advice.
Also a second hand vehicle and particularly a jeep ( 4x4) costs way too much in Southern India comparatively.

Why not undertake a train ride , chill and see some far flung parts of our country . Meanwhile let the gun finance your journey . :D

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:43 pm
by drag73
Woods wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:04 pm
drag73 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:21 am
As we are all aware, arms dealers in cities in the south charge atleast 20 to 25% more compared to their counterparts in say Punjab or U.P or others, for reasons best known to them. Is it possible to get weapons or ammunition shipped to South Indian cities against your license? It will save thousands and sometimes lakhs of rupees....please advice.
Also a second hand vehicle and particularly a jeep ( 4x4) costs way too much in Southern India comparatively.

Why not undertake a train ride , chill and see some far flung parts of our country . Meanwhile let the gun finance your journey . :D
8) not a bad idea :D . In that case , I may have to get carry permit for each state I pass through. On practical level I think flying in and flying back will save few lakhs if you are going for a imported weapon

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:13 pm
by Vineet
drag73 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:43 pm
In that case , I may have to get carry permit for each state I pass through.
This is not true. Carry permit (NOC and Transport License) are not required for every state you pass.

For example of you live in Mumbai and you buy a weapon from Bathinda then the NOC will be issued from Mumbai and transport license will be issued by Bathinda DM.

So if you have Invoice, NOC and TL then no other document is needed while carrying the gun from Bathinda to Mumbai. You can choose any route of your liking.

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:17 pm
by Shivakr
Vineet ji.. how about visiting the clients in other states & deliver the weapons .. just like the accounts we often read about gun & automobile makers visiting royalties in old days.. 😀

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:22 pm
by drag73
Vineet wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:13 pm
drag73 wrote:
Sun Feb 27, 2022 1:43 pm
In that case , I may have to get carry permit for each state I pass through.
This is not true. Carry permit (NOC and Transport License) are not required for every state you pass.

For example of you live in Mumbai and you buy a weapon from Bathinda then the NOC will be issued from Mumbai and transport license will be issued by Bathinda DM.

So if you have Invoice, NOC and TL then no other document is needed while carrying the gun from Bathinda to Mumbai. You can choose any route of your liking.
Ok, thank you for the update. But who issues the NOC at the intended destination?

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:12 pm
by Prabhath
drag73,

A friend of mine got an IOF pistol from Bobby Sidhu of Peerless firearms. The pistol was bought by Bobby himself, modified and then sent to my friend through Safexpress. My friend had to send his arms license through registered post. The gun came in a lockable wooden box and the lock had to be opened in front of the delivery personnel. Hope this information helps.

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:39 pm
by Vineet
drag73 wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 12:22 pm
Ok, thank you for the update. But who issues the NOC at the intended destination?
Only one NOC is required and it is issued by the buyer’s DM.

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:40 pm
by Vineet
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Prabhath wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:12 pm
drag73,

A friend of mine got an IOF pistol from Bobby Sidhu of Peerless firearms. The pistol was bought by Bobby himself, modified and then sent to my friend through Safexpress. My friend had to send his arms license through registered post. The gun came in a lockable wooden box and the lock had to be opened in front of the delivery personnel. Hope this information helps.

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:32 am
by Ajaaybeer
Very informative topic, appreciation to Vineet ji for clarity on practical aspects.

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 12:11 am
by ozk009
For purchasing ammunition from Kolkata, on State specific licence, sellers are demanding fresh permission for purchasing ammunition from local licencing authority and a TL for ammunition. Not sure if that's way.

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm
by HKASHYAP
I have one more quarry. If a person has All India licence then also NOC and Transport Licence will be required or he will be able to purchase the gun anywhere in india including purchase of ammunition? Will there be any restrictions for carrying the gun to any territory of India? Actually I have applied for extention of area of license for All India validity.

Re: Shipping of weapons and ammunition within India

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 8:44 am
by Vineet
HKASHYAP wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:04 pm
I have one more quarry. If a person has All India licence then also NOC and Transport Licence will be required
NOC and TL not required if license is valid for All India