Indians For Guns

IOF feeling the heat of private manufacturers and therefore they are launching high capacity .32 pistols and .30-06 with bipod and other accessories.

Vineet wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:46 pm

........ they are launching high capacity .32 pistols and .30-06 with bipod and other accessories.
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Seems like they are actually launching a new magazine for Ashani and an optikn to get black slide for chrome pistol and vicd versa

Yes, they don’t have anything good to offer so they are basically adding small things to their current models.

This is a real shame!

Whatever is going on at IO, there has to be some valuable skills there. Bringing out trinkets and gadgets may work for the short term, but if and when some competition shows up and if they have not expanded their offerings to include new and meaningful additions, they will be swept away quite quickly.

Hopefully, someone in charge there has realized the need to invest now, while there's still time in new technology, like polymer or investment casting. Technologies like these would enable them to use existing resources, like making slides and barrels, and bring out new frames that would permit wider staggered column magazines for high capacity. It may well be that 32 Auto is soon to be a passing memory as well, but it seems that, for a time, they could bring out effective weapons using existing cartridges like this, before newer cartridges become available.

They also need to develop new lockwork -- using century old designs will not ensure their future success.

Building interim models, at least, will give them design and manufacturing experience that will help catch them up with what's been going on in the rest of the world since the First World War in small arms design and manufacture, which is also a technology.

Perhaps they are relying on some governmental help to keep them in the running, by keeping the market closed or using taxation to keep the competition at bay. This seems to me to be a bad bet if they are, because somewhere along the line, even an incompetent government will figure out that running a dinosaur industry is not in the nation's best interests, just as it was not for automobiles.

IOF is quite like BSNL. They would've been extinct a long time ago had it not been for government support. I thought I heard they were being commercialized and that the babus were about to go on a dharna against the order but decided not to due to covid or something

Yes IOF is being commercialised and the staff went on strike against it last year. The new rules are that the staff will not be changed even after commercialisation and the staff can not go on strike.

So, let's say they launch new products that don't perform in the market. They are forced to let some of the people go since they can't pay them, but said people can simply go on a strike demanding their jobs?

Vineet wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:09 am

The new rules are that the staff will not be changed even after commercialisation and the staff can not go on strike.

Oh dear!

I don't think I'd be too interested in buying IOF stock, or contracting supply arrangements with them! Workers might want to consider alternatives, as well.

Vineet wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 26, 2021 9:46 pm

IOF feeling the heat of private manufacturers and therefore they are launching high capacity .32 pistols and .30-06 with bipod and other accessories.
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I wonder whose sense of aesthetics inspired the maroon-coloured pistol.

They are after tooling and factory buildings,lands.Workers will not have any rights after factories and buildings are sold to private firms.They have simple solution for workers strikes and problems infect they will want that workers goes on strike.Mostly IOF factories are very old and on lands these factories were made were out side cities and had very little value but after 150 years all these factories are standing in heart of city with land value worth billions.private firms will simply sell that land along building and make new one where land is cheaper.A private firm will earn 10 times more then what they have paid govt to buy that factory.Building will be razed and new commercial buildings will be erected on same land.what will workers do then ? where they will protest or strike.same thing happened in west bengal when tata built a plant to make nano cars.farmers on whose land plant was built they started making trouble demanding more and more compensation for land.Tata dismantled plant and took it some where else farmers and workers didnt got a penny as they refused to take money first which was offered.later land was transferred on farmers name but now it was not suitable for agriculture also.Now west bengal govt is compensating farmers by giving 1000rs per acre per year.Just like when farm laws were now even announced adani had build these huge silos for storing grains in many states 2 years earlier then new farm laws were passed.
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