Anyone has experience with this pistol

[pran80]

Friends,
My search for an NPB pistol/revolver has started. I recently came across this piece, the owner is asking for 4.5 hundred thousand Rs for this piece. The pistol is S&S in .32. I do not know the exact model name/number. Has anyone any experiance with this pistol? Kindly share your reviews of the same.

Sorry for the bad quality pics it has been taken on by BB.

[xl_target]

S&S was the trademark of J.P. Sauer & Sohn. The firm later collaborated with SIG of Switzerland to manufacture the famed SIG-Sauer line on handguns.
This looks like a model 1913 Sauer & Sohn pistol. The magazine floorplate does not look like the original.

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[pran80]

XL_Target,
thanks a lot for the information provided by you. Yes the top of the slide does says the following - J.P. Sauer & Sohn. Have you ever handled it?

[indiaone]

Dear friend ,
It appears to be very old and may prove dangerously unreliable in a real emergency. The feed may get jammed due to the old age of the components.At this price, you can get a far more reliable new IOF product or even an imported revolver. In case you are going in for its vintage value, then it is a different matter.

[The Doc]

+1 indiaone .

[cottage cheese]

XL's got it spot on.

Model 1913
Sauer & Sohn,
Suhl, Germany.

There was a Model-30 which had improved ergonomics.

Nothing spectacular in either one. It simply does what a .32 pistol is supposed to do nothing more.

4.5L is a fierce premium for such an old and somewhat obscure piece... that too in a pretty poor condition. Is the right grip panel missing or did you remove it? I'm hoping the poor condition is limited only to the surface.

While old pieces don't necessarily become unsafe to fire by default, its always a good idea to get it checked by someone who knows....should you allow yourself to get ripped off grandly.

regards,
cc

[David Charlton]

Hi pran80,

You have got the Sauer 1913, sometimes called the "old model" was made in two calibers and sizes, 7.65mm (.32 ACP) and 6.35mm (.25 ACP). The guns were well made and reliable. It was also carried by non-military authorities and, of course, was often owned by civilians in Germany and Europe. German officers could buy their own pistols, and the old model Sauer was fairly popular. The old model was replaced first by the similar Model 30, then by the double-single action Model 38h.

To disassemble, remove the magazine and pull the slide all the way to the rear. Press up on the hold open catch in the top of the trigger guard to lock the slide back. Now press down on the rear sight and unscrew the large knob at the rear of the slide. When it comes off, remove the firing pin and firing pin spring from the bolt.

Now, grasp the screw threads at the end of the slide, and pull the slide back, releasing the slide lock. Let the slide go forward off the frame. Reassemble in reverse order.

Value for a very nice one is in the $350+ range. An average is around $250.

Hope that helps, Kind regards,
David Charlton

[timmy]

One thing that often affects these sorts of pistols is the strength of the magazine spring, which can be critical to the way new rounds are fed and chambered.

About the only reliable way to check for this problem is to run a few magazines of ammo through the gun -- sometimes the first few rounds will feed, while the last ones, where the magazine spring tension isn't so great, may jam.

Another problem may be the recoil spring.

If you can get new springs, such as those from Wolff, these problems will be easily solved. However, as I say, the only way I know of to reliably test the firearm would be to run several magazines of ammo through the gun. Just working the action by hand isn't going to tell you much.

[pran80]

Indiaone, CC, David, Timmy,

Thanks a lot for your replies. I was not very intrested in buying this pistol as the price quoted is way high than what i had in mind. I posted this query as i had no knowledge about the vintage of this pistol neither did the owner had any info on it. Had it turned out to be a rare find then may be i would have bought it somehow.

CC - I did not remove the grip panel, it broke when the owner accidently dropped the pistol on hard floor.

Thanks again.

Regards,