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Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

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ASIF007
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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby ASIF007 » Sun May 21, 2017 12:34 am

Thanks Vikram for your reply....I will need your valuable advice on shotguns.....

I bought two kinds of cartridges....one is the Shaktiman Express BB Cartridge 70 mm and the other 65mm by OF NO. 6....which ones to use or avoid?? Also which cartridges to buy later on so that the shotgun is not damaged.

I will take some more pictues in daylight and post soon as I can't understand the 2.5 or 2.75 inch chamber thing. What is full choke?? The barell are little rusted from inside.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby Vikram » Sun May 21, 2017 12:54 am

ASIF007 wrote:Thanks Vikram for your reply....I will need your valuable advice on shotguns.....

I bought two kinds of cartridges....one is the Shaktiman Express BB Cartridge 70 mm and the other 65mm by OF NO. 6....which ones to use or avoid?? Also which cartridges to buy later on so that the shotgun is not damaged.

I will take some more pictues in daylight and post soon as I can't understand the 2.5 or 2.75 inch chamber thing. What is full choke?? The barell are little rusted from inside.

Thanks in advance
Asif


Roughly speaking, a chamber is where you insert the cartridge.It comes in different lengths, from 2" to 3.5". You can use a shorter cartridge(e.g.,2.5") in a gun with a longer chamber( e.g., 3"). Your gun could be chambered for 2.5" or 65mm cartridges. If that is the case, you should not use the 2 3/4" or 70mm cartridges in it. That is the reason why we need to see the proofmarks on your barrel flats. The photo#4. We need a clear photo showing all the markings clearly.

A choke is a constriction at the muzzle end of a shotgun barrel. Choke, depending upon the amount of constriction, determines the spread of the shot at a particular distance. Ball or slugs are not advisable to shoot through a full choke. You can find the choke markings on your gun. We need to see them too.

Try to post the photos of your barrel internals. Let's see how they look. Also, try to have the gun checked by a competent gunsmith before you shoot. If the rusting or pitting is too bad, then it could be dangerous to shoot the gun. Not trying to scare you but being cautious.

T.C is a senior member here and know a lot about firearms scene in Calcutta.

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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby ASIF007 » Sun May 21, 2017 2:57 am

Vikram Sir now I am worried to use this shotgun after paying nearly a lac for it....Will be glad to show Mr TC...But how do I contact him?

Will post the pics soon in daylight...



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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby Vikram » Sun May 21, 2017 4:04 am

ASIF007 wrote:Vikram Sir now I am worried to use this shotgun


You need to calm down. It is not like as you imagine. All you need to do is to find out the right ammo to use in your gun. You get both 65mm and 70mm cartridges in India. You simply use what suits your gun. Before doing that, just have the gun checked by a competent gunsmith. That's all. TC is not a gunsmith. He knows a good deal about Calcutta gun dealers. May be there are other members here who can advise you on that. So, do not worry.


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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby ASIF007 » Sun May 21, 2017 11:42 am

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I have posted some more pics.....Please recommend the cartridges to use. Are the pics Ok?

I would be glad to show it to a gunsmith.
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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby Basu » Sun May 21, 2017 2:22 pm

Wow.....looks nice....

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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby Vikram » Sun May 21, 2017 3:17 pm

ASIF007 wrote:Are the pics Ok?


Asif, could you please take the gun into sunlight and take photos without using flash? Thank you.


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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby ASIF007 » Sun May 21, 2017 3:23 pm

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Vikram Sir I've taken some more pics....Please comment.

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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby Vikram » Sun May 21, 2017 4:42 pm

Asif,

Going by the proofmarks and the serial number, I am thinking that this gun was made before 1924. As such, chamber length and choke are not mentioned on the gun. I would say you better stick to 65mm(2.5") cartridges and no slugs until the choke measurements are determined. See if you can find a competent gunsmith who can measure them for you. The bores do look clean.


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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby ASIF007 » Sun May 21, 2017 6:05 pm

Thank You Vikram....Will try to find a competent gunsmith from Kolkata....Hope fellow members can recommend someone.
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Thank You Vikram....Will try to find a competent gunsmith from Kolkata....Hope fellow members can recommend someone.
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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby mundaire » Mon May 22, 2017 9:01 am

One barrel is clearly marked choke, but no further info on choke constriction is visible. Vikram is right, you'll have to get someone to measure it for you. I'm willing to bet that the other barrel is cylinder (no choke) as there is no marking on it.

The proof marks mention that the gun has been proof tested for 1 1/8 ounce shot loads. That and the fact that 2 1/2" (65mm) was pretty much the standard chamber length for most English guns, leads me suspect that this would most likely have 65mm chambers.

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Don't forget choke constriction is relative to bore size and that there are variations in bore size between various shotgun makers. So asides from the muzzle, you'll have to measure the bore diameter ( not the chamber) to arrive at an accurate understanding of what choke it has.


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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby ASIF007 » Mon May 22, 2017 12:13 pm

Thank You for the information. I wish I knew all this nitty gritty before buying the shotgun. I also regret buying 10 rounds of Shaktiman 70 mm which I should not use.

Since I purchased it from J Biswas should I get the measurement done from them or any other competent gunsmith . Looking forward to advice from fellow Kolkattans.

Thanks
Asif



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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby muthukarthi007 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:41 pm

Donot buy any indian made shotguns it is totally wast after 500 shots...



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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby Xing_sting » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:42 pm

muthukarthi007 wrote:Donot buy any indian made shotguns it is totally wast after 500 shots...
Can't get a brand new imported either. Wanted to buy a semiautomatic shotgun not able to get any as every dealer is discouraging.

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Re: Where to Buy 12-Bore Shotgun?

Postby Jameskumar3303 » Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:50 pm

Hi All, Could you suggest me any a link or a contact in bangalore who can help me with a double barrel shot gun and the best Air rifle.. and how would i get a traders license to own an Arms shop.




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