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Post by Django » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:11 pm

Mack The Knife,

You are welcome, what I meant by limitation was rock climbing, Gypsy chassis is a compromise between weight as per the engine and strength, as such, its not quite flexible and will show it's weakness during extreme offroading like rock and trails, otherwise for general off roading, its fine, no need to worry, key areas to look out for is the area around the tranny, almost all planetary T cases suffer from shock damage as compared to divorced ones, also check out for leaf spring anchors on the chassis for rusting, they have a tendency then to break off.
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Post by Django » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:18 pm

Mack The Knife,

If you do lots of wading in water with your Gypsy, I recommend greasing your wheel bearings every 15000KM and changing your diff, tranny and T case oil at 10,000KM, this would prevent premature damage of the components due to water contamination of the oil and failure of the lubricant.
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Post by Mack The Knife » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:19 pm

Django, what exactly do you mean by 'trails'? Would you have a pic or two to illustrate this point?

Thanks again for the tips.

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Post by Mack The Knife » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:32 pm

Thanks for the link.

We do have such a stretch but we have only used a MM540 for that to date. I would have probably tried it in the Gypsy if you hadn't warned me.

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Post by Django » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:39 pm

Mack The Knife,

If the MM540 survived, so will the Gypsy and with ease.
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Post by Django » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:41 pm

Btw, the stretch that the G Wagen was going through would kill the Mahindra, as a matter of fact, it wouldn't even make it beyond the first point due to lack of diff locks.
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Post by Mack The Knife » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:16 pm

If you do lots of wading in water with your Gypsy, I recommend greasing your wheel bearings every 15000KM and changing your diff, tranny and T case oil at 10,000KM, this would prevent premature damage of the components due to water contamination of the oil and failure of the lubricant.
Somehow I missed this post earlier on. The only wading I have done is when I lived in Bombay and had to go through heaily flooded roads.

I don't see this Gypsy doing any wading but will keep the advice in mind. Infact, I'll make a checklist of the points mentioned once this thread is done and dusted with.

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Post by Mack The Knife » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:24 pm

If the MM540 survived, so will the Gypsy and with ease.
Btw, the stretch that the G Wagen was going through would kill the Mahindra, as a matter of fact, it wouldn't even make it beyond the first point due to lack of diff locks.

The 540 does about six trips on that stretch every year and so far it hasn't given any problems. However, considering your sceptism about its ability I am begining to wonder if it's my imagination that is running riot. It's still a pretty horrible stretch - stones, ruts et al.

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Post by Django » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:56 pm

The Seven Sisters trail is a killer for even hardcore off road vehicles, only the likes of G, Land Cruiser or Gurkha can make it, for the G, its a 260bhp Mercedes diesel pumping through the 4 diff locked wheels to make it happen.
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Post by sat » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:25 am

Thought I share with you all the news about some old gypsy's going strong in rajasthan. Spoke to a friend who's 1986 model gypsy with 3.5 lakh km is still doing well, he has still not opened the engine.

I have driven another 86 white gypsy with 2 lakh km, original paint, etc, superb condition. single owner...

My 1986 gypsy, 1.53 lakh km, original paint etc, in decent condition.. need to go to the workshop for some minor work on the 4 wd gears, one has to be carefull how one change from 2wd to 4wd, lever tends to get stuck if the change not done properly..

Any suggestion where I can purchase original SGP parts.. bearing etc..

Django,
excellent suggestion "if wading in water with the Gypsy recommend greasing wheel bearings every 15,000 km and changing diff, tranny and T case oil at 10,000 km"

Mack The Knife,
do let us know which radial tyres you choose & what do they cost?

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Post by Django » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:26 am

86 Gypsy is what we had, the first Gypsies to come out of MUL, the powertrain was all Suzuki including the excellent car, the freewheeling hub was made by Aisin, the meter was ND, headlights Koito, it would do 120kmph with ease, engine was butter smooth and so was the tranny. Those who took care of it have their engines and vehicle last for long as is witnessed by Sat's post above. If you need SGP, send me a PM.
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Post by Mack The Knife » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:20 am

Sat,

The distances covered on those two Gypsys are very impressive. I don't plan on changing the tyres for another 10,000 kms / a year.

Got some very disappointing mileage readings this morning - 6.11 kmpl. Pre-service I had got 10.65 with tyres inflated to 30 PSI. The 6.11 kmpl reading was with tyres inflated to 28 PSI. Have now taken them 1 psi higher. Something must be wrong because pre-service I had got 7.1 kmpl with tyres inflated to just 22 PSI.

Not sure if I should drive it more before filling up again because all that went in this morning was 6.84 litres. I am definitely not chuffed about this, especially since I coughed up for a new Maruti Esteem 1.3L carb, amongst other things.

Django,

Is there any chance you can source me the original circular faced clock that sits between the two central air vents and a original door mirror for the left hand side or a pair?

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Post by Django » Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:47 am

STP Fuel Injector cleaner, one full bottle on a tankfull, run the vehicle till its near empty, don't top up till then, replace spark plugs with NGK, check the spark plug gaps, you will be surprised at what they do at the dealership, also check the timing, when was the last time your tappets were checked?, also make sure air filter is clean. Lift up all the wheels and check for brake drag. I had the original circular clock on my Gypsy which I had picked up from an auto accesory store in Connaught Place, it was made by German company called Kienzle, had radium dials and bright red hands. Now they are not available anymore so I use locally made round ones for my Jonga, not exactly in the finish of the Kienzle but it does its job. In case you want that I can get one for you and mail it to you.
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Re: Air pressure for Gypsy King tyres...

Post by Mack The Knife » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:30 pm

STP Fuel Injector cleaner, one full bottle on a tankfull, run the vehicle till its near empty, don't top up till then.
Will do. Thanks.
replace spark plugs with NGK
I have put in four new spark plugs but what is NGK?
check the spark plug gaps
The Gypsy was sent to a bit of a specialist, so I am assuming he has done the needful. I don't understand head or tail of automotive engineering but I think it's time I did. Will get the gaps checked again.
also check the timing
Also done.
when was the last time your tappets were checked?
The last couple of weeks. I spoke to the mechanic about the lack of mileage and he has asked me to bring it back after 500 kms. He feels some fine tuning will be required at this stage.
also make sure air filter is clean
Have put in a new one.
Lift up all the wheels and check for brake drag.
Before the service the rear brakes were binding to some extent. This has been attended to and brake fluid has been changed.

Besides the above, I have also changed the wheel cylinder assembly, caliper kit, oil filter, fuel filter, engine oil, fuel pipe, carburettor and delco cap (earlier one was cracked).
I use locally made round ones for my Jonga, not exactly in the finish of the Kienzle but it does its job. In case you want that I can get one for you and mail it to you.
If it sits neatly within the space provided, I would be grateful if you could source me one. Will PM you my address in a bit. Thanks a lot.

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