A salute to Mumbai

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A salute to Mumbai

Post by mehulkamdar » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:18 am

Friends,

The recent blasts in Mumbai have shown the world the true nature of the Indian people - resilient and proud and also sjown the terrorists who set the explosions off as a cowardly and worthless lot, scum who deserve a bullet in their heads as soon as possible. As a shooters' forum, it is my worry that this tragedy would cause further restrictions on our beloved sport though guns were not only not involved in this murder of innocent people, law abiding gun owners had nothing to do with this.

If the terrorists are caught and sentenced to death, I would be happy to be a hangman - or, to participate on a firing squad to rid the world of these miserable scum. The Government of India knows where I am - if it needs my help, it only has to call. I'll be there.

I am sure, so would most members on this forum.

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Post by HSharief » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:46 pm

Mehul, On the contrary I will hope that the gun laws in India get more gun friendly. In Hyderabad, the police have been encouraging people to apply for firearms licenses after the recent spate of dacoities (sp?). I don't intend for oridinary citizens to be vigilantes but an unarmed citizen does not have ANY deterrent against a threat. If I see a "bad guy" acting suspiciously with stange looking baggage I can't do anything to stop him. BUT, if I were armed and I got confirmation that something bad is about to happen, I can detain the guy for sometime and if he tried funny stuff, would even neutralize him.

Don't even get me started on how I proud I feel about our bretheren and how much scorn I have for the other side.

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Post by axp817 » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:58 pm

I have the same feelings towards this issue as you do, Mehul.

Terrorists need to be dealt with in a very harsh manner. No point having never ending trials, they should be executed right after all the investigation/interrogation is done, Mossad style.

Yes, firearms were not used in this incident but there have been incidents were terrorists used firearms on civilians and if civilians possessed firearms like they do here in the US or Israel, the casualties wouldn't have been so high.

I am talking about the Akshardham incident in Gujarat where two LeT terrorists, having an AK each, took down close to a 100 people.

I am sure not one of the 100 civilians there carried guns. If even 10-20% had CCWs there is a good chance that the terrorists would have been brought down by civilians before they could carry out the large scale massacre that they did.

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Post by Sujay » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:09 pm

axp817 wrote: Mossad style.

if civilians possessed firearms like they do here in the US or Israel, the casualties wouldn't have been so high.

-Naren
In the early 90's, six Israeli tourists were kidnapped in Kashmir; who escaped their gruesome fate by untying themselves, disarming their
guards of the AK's while also shooting some of them. On being grilled by journalists in a press conference, the Israelis attributed it to their 'training'.

Indian Govt was quick to pack them off to their country to avoid the charge of seeking Mossad's help in countering terrorism. It did not help much though and Pakistan was quick to fan the rumors of Mossad commandos operating in Kashmir.
Mehul wrote:the true nature of the Indian people - resilient and proud
I have my reservations of what is being made out of Bombay bouncing back etc as this kind of indifference only makes the citizens cannon fodders. The financial capital simply cannot pause as too much is at stake ; financially. Every Bombayite is unsure of safe return in evening and already carrying of bags in local trains is on decline.

At least some reaction from the people and business houses should make it clear to the Govt that they can't be expected to take terrorism in their stride. The press and Govt is sending out a very wrong message:-- "You carry on with your life, people anyway will continue getting blown occassionally".
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Post by kanwar76 » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:38 pm

Sujay wrote:
Mehul wrote:the true nature of the Indian people - resilient and proud
I have my reservations of what is being made out of Bombay bouncing back etc as this kind of indifference only makes the citizens cannon fodders. The financial capital simply cannot pause as too much is at stake ; financially. Every Bombayite is unsure of safe return in evening and already carrying of bags in local trains is on decline.

At least some reaction from the people and business houses should make it clear to the Govt that they can't be expected to take terrorism in their stride. The press and Govt is sending out a very wrong message:-- "You carry on with your life, people anyway will continue getting blown occassionally".

My thoughts exactly. Same thing happened after Delhi bomb blasts. Media was full of "Delhi bounce back reports". A big percentage of our population is still under poverty line. People still depend on daily wages. One day leave from work means foodless nights for them. Its not that they are not afraid of bomb blasts it?s that we don't have any other choice
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Mumbai blasts...

Post by sat » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:28 pm

I received this by email, thought I would share it with you all..

Dear all,

Today's Mid-Day edit begins by saying that you don't need to be a rocket
scientist to understand that the chain of events starting from the Bhiwandi
riots to the desecration of Meenatai's statue and what happened as an
aftermath, to the serial blasts on the trains yesterday, means somebody
somewhere wants Mumbaikar's to spill out on the streets and grab each other by the throats.

Incidentally, these same somebody-- the faceless outcasts that they still
are-- have at least succeeded in one part of their plan. Mumbaikars have
actually spilled out on to the streets.

The catch here is that they have failed to succeed in the second and most
important part of their plan: that of getting Mumbaikars to grab each other by the throats. Mumbaikars spilled onto the streets-- in a collective show of the middle finger to those who proposed otherwise.

I know very well that you are already aware of how Mumbai stormed onto
the streets to help the injured, the stranded and soothe the injuries that were still gaping along its life line.

There were capsules and capsules of streaming video that showed them
offering water and refreshments to people stranded on SV Road and the
Eastern and Western Express Highways.

There were captures of students of Sydenham and SNDT college, who
camped at Churchgate station with the sole purpose of offering a bed to those stranded at the starting node of the life line.

And there was also that memorable grab of people standing patiently in
front of KEM Hospital-- all in a serpentine queue, to donate blood. A result
of which has been a no-shortage syndrome, when it comes to blood at all the hospitals where the injured are being treated or are recuperating.

But this is not about all that. And yet, it is about all that and more. It
is about the sights I saw and the people I met with, while travelling along
the Western Express Highway to Kandivali yesterday, between 7 in the evening and one in the morning.

It is about that little kid and his grandfather near Dadar, who, perhaps in
the absence of anybody else in the household, took to the streets with
bottles of water and packets of biscuits to contribute in whatever way
possible in managing the crisis. "Uncle, you must be thirsty," the kid told
me while offering the bottle. A parched me drank gratefully. And I saw in
those eyes no fear. So what did those terrorists think while planting the
bomb? That was at least the silent way of making one statement -- "Terror, my foot.!"

It is also about those housewives in front of a housing society near Santa
Cruz , who were standing with pots of piping tea, water and God only knows what else to help those passing by. And they had this board beside them which read "Beyond Borivli, Can Stay'. I was lucky to get a cab, but there were people who were trying to make it on foot. And they needed succor. Rest. Shelter. It was raining.

It is about the autorickshaw driver, who finally reached me home in the
interiors of Kandivali at 1 in the morning. And refused to take the night
fare, despite being legally empowered to charge extra. "Nehi saab, aaj ki
baat alag hai. Aap thik thak ghar pohuj gaye, yeh hi kafi hai," he bade me
goodbye at my doorstep.

It is also about the dabbawala who provides me with my dinner
everyday. His shop is near the Borivli station, where there was one of the biggest blasts at 6:34 in the evening. Yet, at one o clock in the morning, the dabba was there waiting at my doorstp to be picked up. It didn't need a note. The piping hot food at such an unearthly hour said it all.

The terrorists succeeded in synchronising a series of blasts that stopped
the Mumbai lifeline for somewhere around seven hours. That was all that they achieved on 7/11. The trains were back on track by 1:30 in the morning and they plied all through the night. I wonder if the masterminds will consider this before planning their next attack. I would urge them to-- if this reaches any one of them-- to rethink. After all, what did a year of
planning, six months of smuggling dangerous explosives, extensive netwroking and crores achieve at the end-- arond 200 lives and just seven hours of disruption? Bus! I won't budge for that. In the deal they united more than they dreamt to rip apart.

And by the way, I did not spot any member of the celebrated Readers' Digest survey team yesterday on the roads. Or perhaps they were there-- reconsidering their statement.

I request whoever receives this, to forward it to as many people as
possible. At least that way, we will build an opinion against these faceless
faces of terror.

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