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Stray Dogs

Postby chicky » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:44 pm

Dear Fellow IFGians,

Would like to discuss this very real issue in almost all towns of India. Stray dogs have become a menace to the safety of humans, nothwithstanding what Madam Meneka says. There are a lot among us who are naturally scared of dogs and there have been cases I know of where adults have been attacked unprovoked by stray dogs.I am aware of the huge publicity given to the decision of culling stray dogs , last year in Verkala, Kerala.I do not advocate culling is the only option we have to control this issue, but the State Governments should look at this issue very seriously. Nutering is a possible way out, it not only reduces the aggression in male dogs but also inhibits further reproduction.
I would like you all to see this news on NDTV today, an incident which could have gone horribly wrong but thank God, didn't.
http://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/hyderabad-b ... ecialevent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5hXTXhHMXI

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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby mundaire » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:34 pm

As a young lad, I've employed the above tactic as well, the child most likely has dogs at home so isn't afraid of them (people usually fear the unknown).

That said, strays are certainly a grave problem across all of India. One of my wife's friend's was attacked just last month and she sustained multiple fractures when she tripped & fell while trying to get away from the strays! IIRC India has the highest incidence of rabies in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_rabies

An estimated 31,000 human deaths due to rabies occur annually in Asia,[1] with the majority – approximately 20,000 – concentrated in India.[2] Worldwide, India has the highest rate of human rabies in the world primarily due to stray dogs. Because of a decline in the number of vultures due to acute poisoning by the anti-inflammatory drug diclofenac, animal carcasses that would have been consumed by vultures instead became available for consumption by feral dogs, resulting in a growth of the dog population and thus a larger pool of carriers for the rabies virus.[3] Another reason for the great increase in the number of stray dogs is the 2001 law that forbade the killing of dogs.[2]


Not only stray dogs, stray cats are a serious menace as well, see viewtopic.php?f=18&t=25183

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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby PRITAM PATEL » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:34 pm

I have been facing serious stray/ street dog problem since long time.

There are 3- 4 unused houses in my neighborhood ( where most dogs shelter and breed in every season)
One of my neighbour is religious and feeds these dogs regularly

few years back one of the dogs developed rabbis symptoms and was running and chasing people, I was worried about my 4 year son who used to enjoy ridding bicycle in the street. Complained to local municipality authority many times and no one came to tackle the dog menace.

My boy was not allowed to ride alone, and once my wife was barely survived from bitten by that same dog

Giving up hopes from authority, at one time I made up my mind to solve this mad dog issue with the help of .22 LR, but fearing complain or any adverse consequences, constrained myself from resorting to that option.

(Un) Luckily that dog eventually got weak and had long-painful death,

many times I had personally visited Civic Centre to complain the dog issue, not a single attempt is taken by the authority till today.

even when i am writing this post, they are barking and fighting outside of my home

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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby Shivaji.Dasgupta » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:12 am

Its almost same all across the County where the municipality is not strong enough to take care of Stray animals. My wife and daughter is strongly against killing this Stray Dog and cats ( More over we have a some animals called Khatas ( Large indian Civet cat) and Bham ( small Civet) due to close proximity of hills and jungle)
I use a catapult and 1/2 inch Black stone chips used for Construction work. its not kill them but give them a good punch so by nature from next time they try to avoid the area where they usual get face some resistance.
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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby goodboy_mentor » Sat Jun 03, 2017 4:11 pm

Every living creature has it's place in the ecological balance of nature. Dogs have been living amicably with humans for thousands of years, probably since the time of prehistoric early man. It was a mutually give and take relationship. Dogs have keen sense of sight, smell, hearing and guarding instincts. Humans used these qualities in dogs to serve their purpose of hunting, safety and survival. In return the dogs got easy food from humans.

Since dogs are sentient creatures who are able to forge strong emotional or sentimental bonds with humans, therefore any indiscriminate or large scale killing or culling of dogs is bound to create uproar and opposition. Of course rabid or mad dogs need to be killed in a humane manner.

If one carries a stout cane of about three feet or more long, it is usually more than enough to keep most of the dogs away. Without any exceptions, one must always keep away from a lactating b**ch or her puppies, who has delivered pups in last two or three months. During this period the b**ch due to the laws of nature, is unusually vicious in protecting her pups. Children need to be made aware of this because they tend to get attracted by cute looking puppies and try to lift or cuddle them. This is the most dangerous step since their mother is surely going to react viciously due to her natural instincts.


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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby chicky » Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:34 am

Coincidently there was a news clip in the Hindustan Times today , I am forwarding a link of the same for your reading ...
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... b2cSN.html

Added in 7 minutes 22 seconds:
I must confess, I have always been a dog lover, have a Labrador as of now, and have had them since the past 30 years. As a pet, it's the best therapeutic medicine one can have...with only delightful side effects of faithfulness and joy.


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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby goodboy_mentor » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:49 am

Yes read that news clip. In the end, it itself has mentioned the cause as well as solution to the problem is human behavior. It is the human behavior that is destroying the environment, creating environmental pollution, disturbing ecological scheme of things, causing climate change etc.

Similarly massive human population growth coupled with rapid urbanization has created it's own peculiar problems. Survival and population growth of any living creature also depends on availability of food. These urban centers provide lot of food to these dogs, in form of garbage thrown by households, hotels, roadside eateries, butcher shops etc. You control the supply of this type of "food" for dogs, you can control their population to a large extent.


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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby marksman » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:24 pm

These dogs seem to be curious more then being in attack mode from their behavior I noticed, at least in this scenario.. The little girl's running may have caused them to chase instinctively I feel. The boy indeed was brave and held his ground to neutralize the situation. These dogs seemed pretty harmless to me.I have seen people getting petrified of most innocent and playful dogs not unlike when they encounters a non venomous snake.
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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby essdee1972 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:03 pm

Every living creature has it's place in the ecological balance of nature. Dogs have been living amicably with humans for thousands of years, probably since the time of prehistoric early man. It was a mutually give and take relationship. Dogs have keen sense of sight, smell, hearing and guarding instincts. Humans used these qualities in dogs to serve their purpose of hunting, safety and survival. In return the dogs got easy food from humans.

Since dogs are sentient creatures who are able to forge strong emotional or sentimental bonds with humans, therefore any indiscriminate or large scale killing or culling of dogs is bound to create uproar and opposition. Of course rabid or mad dogs need to be killed in a humane manner.

If one carries a stout cane of about three feet or more long, it is usually more than enough to keep most of the dogs away. Without any exceptions, one must always keep away from a lactating b**ch or her puppies, who has delivered pups in last two or three months. During this period the b**ch due to the laws of nature, is unusually vicious in protecting her pups. Children need to be made aware of this because they tend to get attracted by cute looking puppies and try to lift or cuddle them. This is the most dangerous step since their mother is surely going to react viciously due to her natural instincts.


Agree.

In the video, the girl did everything wrong, the boy did everything right. Never never never run when faced by dogs. Stand and face them. They can smell fear.

I have had incidents when I was chased by dogs on a bicycle ( I was on the bicycle, the dogs were on all fours). I stopped, faced them, and gave them some "good language".

Even sweetly behaved pets like to scare people who are scared of them. My pup likes to sniff people are already scared. It's just fun for him, but someone running away might trip on stairs and suchlike.


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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby ganeshn » Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:40 am

the strategy of standing one ground works with black and brown bears and charging elephants, provided its not a mock charge.you have to show that you are the alpha however big and frightening the animal is.the moment you turn the back one instantly becomes a prey and the animals predatory instinct kicks in.



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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby nitroex700 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:15 pm

I grew up playing with strays and found them as loving as any pet. Thus far I am yet to encounter a stray that chases and attacks if you don't scare it too much or trigger it's predatory instinct.. They're animals and we just have to play by their rules to stay safe and even enjoy their company...



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Re: Stray Dogs

Postby PRITAM PATEL » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:23 pm



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