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Posts related to handguns (pistols, revolvers)
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Please sign change.org petition and share far and wide
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mundaire » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:44 pm
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Humble request to share as far and wide as possible.
Regards,
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While petitions can help raise awareness, they don’t always result in immediate, tangible change. To drive significant impact, consider engaging in...
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Last post by Samuel420
Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:09 pm
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Last post by pistolprince007
Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:36 pm
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Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:10 pm
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Info regarding Arms Rules 2015 - Message from NAGRI
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mundaire » Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:38 pm
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Important information regarding Arms Rules 2015
Dear Friends,
We are writing to solicit your support in ensuring that the upcoming the ARMS RULES...
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This strategy could effectively amplify our voice and potentially create meaningful change. By utilizing digital platforms and social media, we can...
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Last post by Josephroy
Tue Nov 07, 2023 1:25 pm
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Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:27 pm
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Expected code of conduct - MODIFIED
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mundaire » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:27 pm
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Hi All,
Based on feedback from the membership, as well as much deliberations amongst the moderators here, we have decided to make some (rather...
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I have posted a few times, but no proper introduction. So, I am going to do that now with a set of pictures to boot! :)
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Last post by caracass77
Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:25 pm
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Dry Firing !!! Is it really bad
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mariner » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:58 pm
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Dear Moderators,
please help me put this topic in the right place,as of now iam placing it under handguns.
People all over the world have different...
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@doctor & other members,
Thanks for clearing my doubts about dry firing
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Last post by perfectionist
Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:28 pm
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APPLYING FOR LICENSE
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PRINCE CHAUDHRY » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:23 pm
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HI, I M A VERY NEW USER TO IFG CAN ANY ONE HELP ME OUT. I WOULD LIKE TO APPLY FOR HANDGUN LICENSE I HAVE JUST COMPLETED MY LAW. PLEASE HELP ME OUT...
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Yes please express in English and no capital letters please.
If the authorities are satisfied of your need to have a fire arm, the needful will be...
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Last post by goodboy_mentor
Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:06 pm
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IOF Pistol or Revolver ?
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trammway » Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:43 pm
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Hi Gentlemen,
I wish to go for Arm License and zeroed my mind to stick with the IOF made handgun. Now I'm confused which .32 cal handgun to go for,...
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The webley revolvers would be anything from 20 to a 100 year old.Many are in a very poor shape.Fakes abound.Some are chambered for the .320...
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Last post by winnie_the_pooh
Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:15 pm
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can i use .32 pistol ammo in revolver
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ankur1011111 » Wed May 18, 2011 3:06 pm
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Hey can we use pistol ammo in revolver.
I loaded it in my revolver and it fits exactly, can i try shooting it.
Does my revolver can face any...
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yes u can fire very easily. i used to fire many pistol ctgs in i.o.f revolver. diff is only tat is rimless . u
That is very poor advice. Unless you...
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Last post by TwoRivers
Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:18 am
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.30 caliber pistol vs 9mm. Which one is more powerful?
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thebrowningeffect » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:14 pm
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Dear IFGians,
Which is more powerful ? .30 caliber (7.62x25)or 9mm Parabellum? Please shed some light on this?
Thanks in advance
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so the final discussion ends.... 30 (.32acp) has more penetrating power than a 9mm?good or bad?
:roll: pl don't close the debate :lol:
i am a...
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Last post by dr.jayakumar
Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:32 pm
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IOF .32 OLD ONE OR .32 LONG BARREL ?
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roughplayer » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:30 am
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PLEASE GUIDE WHICH ONE TO GO FOR. WHICH IS THE BEST BUY.
IOF LONG BARREL
IOF OLD ONE .32
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DEAR SENIORS,
PLEASE...
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lucky you have choice??
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Last post by dr.jayakumar
Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:08 am
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My S&W Rev with Laser, Tyler Grips, ASP Baton & RAO Folder..
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ssmickey.32 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:21 pm
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Hello,
I am pleased to upload the pictures of my 0.32 Bore Smith & Wesson Revolver Model 31-1, Regulation Police, with 3 inch barrel. This gun was...
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Hi ssmickey.32!
Is the bore snake ment for cleaning only the revolver? If so, where did you get it from and how much did you pay for it? Im want...
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Last post by Ticky
Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:32 pm
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How Good Is a .25 Melior Pistol?
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nabeelmdkhan » Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:26 pm
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HI Friends.
I've inherited a .25 Melior Pistol (Belgium Make)from my dad which he had bought in late seventies from his cousin for 20K, and i have...
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Thanks A Lot... Will certainly Upload the pics...
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Last post by nabeelmdkhan
Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:03 pm
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Ashani .32 pistol cracked barrel (was barrel blast)
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Tai Ahom » Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:44 pm
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The barrel of a IOF .32 pistol. One of the 7 cases reported in our location
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The barrel of a IOF .32 pistol. One of the 7 cases reported in our location
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i can't see the pics.
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Last post by dev
Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:07 pm
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Last post by The Doc
Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:52 pm
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swajan » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:48 am
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Hi Katana,
Great to hear that you are now my senior :cheers:
Yes !! your gun need bluing. And you are very fortunate to have such forefathers, who...
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Last post by swajan
Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:39 am
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Pls suggest a handgun (semi-automatic) under 4 lakhs
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cacsus » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:50 pm
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Hi everyone,
I want to buy a handgun (automatic, NOT a revolver) and my budget is upto 4 lakhs. I would appreciate your suggestions for good...
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@art_collector : Thanks for the prompt reply. I am not really conversant with guns and that's why I had started this thread. Actually, my time is...
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Last post by cacsus
Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:32 am
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COLT .38 SUPER
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target shooter » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:00 pm
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Hi all,
When ammos of .38 super is not available for purchase in this country, why very few are willing to sell/part this handgun and if at all it...
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Target Shooter,
I think it is a superb caliber and at same time it doesn't have endorsing issues which are common with .45 ACP.I am looking for one...
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Last post by target shooter
Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:28 pm
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Need purchase info on Revolver and Pistol
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by ashvini » Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:25 am
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Hi All,
I am Indian resident and want to purchase pistol/revolver from India.
Below are my queries:
-Can I buy .32 caliber pistol/revolver as a...
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LOL awesome! @XL
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Last post by silver9
Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:08 pm
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Anyone has experience with this pistol
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pran80 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:12 am
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Friends,
My search for an NPB pistol/revolver has started. I recently came across this piece, the owner is asking for 4.5 hundred thousand Rs for...
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Indiaone, CC, David, Timmy,
Thanks a lot for your replies. I was not very intrested in buying this pistol as the price quoted is way high than what...
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Last post by pran80
Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:31 am
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Stopping power of different handgun cartridges
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tonysilas » Mon Jul 04, 2011 3:29 pm
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General Julian Hatcher, a noted forensic pathologist, in the early 1900’s developed a good formula to determine the theoretical stopping power of a...
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very nice read about calibers things
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Last post by Subal das
Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:39 pm
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Spare mag for Beretta 32 Pistol
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ashok32bareta » Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:58 pm
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Hi friends,
Can anyone suggest where I can get a Spare mag for my Berreta 32 pistol (1935-M)? Are original spares avaiable in the market?
Regds
Ashok
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Hi Vinay
I will certainly appreciate it. Thanx a lot in advance. How is ur experience with S&W.
Regds Ashok
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Last post by ashok32bareta
Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:04 pm
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for New pistol
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rakeshpandey » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:33 pm
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Dear Sir
i need .45mm pistol can you sagest me how i bay it
thanks
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At the risk of sounding snotty; there is no such thing as a .45mm pistol.
A bullet of that diameter would be very small, less than half a millimeter...
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Last post by xl_target
Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:03 pm
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Day Out With Friends For Plinking...........
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Glockholic » Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:56 pm
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Hi,
Well I've not come across any single topic which deals with personal experience of any gun like videos or pictures, I think people are shy to...
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Thanks for sharing Glockholic.
Looks like you had fun. Please continue to share your videos.
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Last post by xl_target
Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:45 pm
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Price of .22lr pistol vs .25 acp
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The Doc » Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:25 pm
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Gentlemen,
Could you shed some light on the subject as to why a .22 LR pistol commands a much higher price than a comparable pistol chambered in .25...
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You ask why the .22 is more costly. Plain and simply it's perceived demand. Here in the US, we have several similar guns in these calibers (Beretta...
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Last post by SARGE7402
Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:26 pm
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capasity of .32 bore revolver round
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kuwar » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:06 pm
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Friends,
is .32 bore revolver cartigdge is capable of cearting an exit wound in a human being.
no I don't have any bad intutions I own a wepeon of...
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u r really a lucky person to survive that mr.glock
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Last post by Ganesh TT
Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:05 pm
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New Ruger Sixgun - well, maybe not a SIX gun
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xl_target » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:11 pm
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Ruger has just announced the Single-Ten. It is a 10 shot .22 LR caliber revolver in stainless steel with the single six frame.
The price is the same...
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Ruger has just announced the Single-Ten. It is a 10 shot .22 LR caliber revolver in stainless steel with the single six frame.
The price is the same...
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Last post by ckkalyan
Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:59 am
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My Dressed up Glock19
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Glockholic » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:53 pm
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Hi Guys,
My first post as my location shows my origin as I am a Glock lover want to share my collection,
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@ kapilj, yes dear I am agreed upon your statement, .32, or .38 revolvers are like distinct species here everyone is switching to big calibers and...
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Last post by rraju2805
Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:02 pm
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Is it legal to have Laser assisted sights on H'gun in India?
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ssmickey.32 » Fri May 06, 2011 12:20 pm
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Is it legal to have Laser assisted sights on Handguns in India? Is it legal to bring in Laser assisted sights from US carrying personally by air?...
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After i floated the topic, I saw laser assisted airsoft handguns freely available in shops and actually purchased one just to get the feel of Laser....
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Last post by ssmickey.32
Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:08 pm
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Price check of Glock 19 ????
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Glockholic » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:35 pm
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As title tells the story, in Pakistan we have to pay 6 to 8x more than normal prices of Glock, S&W, Springfield, Sig etc. The mind boggling, stupidly...
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Hey ssmicky,
If there was a like button on IFG, am sure your above post would have got the maximum hits.... :D
regards
Happy.
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Last post by Happy
Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:48 pm
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Last post by Vikram
Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:58 pm
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Replica Handguns
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silver9 » Wed May 25, 2011 5:06 pm
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One of my uncles bought a replica/imitation pistol for his nephew from Masjid Bundar, Mumbai. The original Colt 1911 military model with markings. He...
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One of my uncles bought a replica/imitation pistol for his nephew from Masjid Bundar, Mumbai. The original Colt 1911 military model with markings. He...
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Last post by ckkalyan
Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:30 am
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Mauser HSc
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ashok32bareta » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:44 am
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Does anyone owns Mauser Hsc. (kal 7.65mm)? Recently a dealer showed me a piece which looks in good nick but asking whooping 8.5L. Is it worth that?...
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Thanx a lot thebrowningeffect. I shot around 20 rounds with it, performs really well.
Regds
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Last post by ashok32bareta
Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:58 pm
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.25 Pistols
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atul yadgire » Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:47 pm
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Are .25 pistols good for self defense?
Size and weight are really impressive features.
What bout stopping power in case of attack, will .25 be...
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25 pistol is nice to see it looks good
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Last post by braydon
Tue May 31, 2011 4:25 pm
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Yet another KABOOM !
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The Doc » Fri May 27, 2011 7:22 pm
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Gentlemen,
Any gun may blow up if the charge is too hot for it to handle !
best,
Rp.
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One thing that I try do to when handloading pistol ammunition is to pick a powder so that my selected charge will fill more than half of the...
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Last post by eljefe
Sat May 28, 2011 9:27 am
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Just a passing Interest
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jonahpach » Thu May 12, 2011 11:54 pm
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Has anyone on the forum had any experience with the Sphinx AT-380M? Feedback would be much appreciated
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The Sphinx Firearms company is located in Switzerland. They are mostly famous for making very high quality (and expensive) CZ clones.
You don't hear...
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Last post by xl_target
Fri May 27, 2011 1:22 am
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The Revolver Checkout
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xl_target » Wed May 25, 2011 4:26 am
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So you're going to buy a revolver? New, Used, doesn't matter, you want a good one, right?
How do I check one over without firing it, right at the...
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↑ I like, thnxx
Request to Mods - is it possible to have a like button and / or a thank you button / icon?
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Last post by full_circle
Wed May 25, 2011 8:13 am
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.22 pocket pistol
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james » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:07 pm
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A friend of mine is keen on buying .22 pocket pistol but with higher magazine capacity ,may be 10 plus , suggestion on imported model that can be...
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I have a Bernardelli mod 60 in .22LR. It takes 10+1 rounds. Nice little pistol and there should still be some for sale in good condition.
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Last post by Roland
Tue May 24, 2011 8:20 am
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S&W Model 41 .22 pistol
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dushyantsinh » Fri May 20, 2011 11:11 am
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I just bought model 41 s&w .22 pistol can anyone guid me how to find telescope or laser for same in India?
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you can buy scope mount for pistol and use it both with scope and laser same time. no drilling or modification required with such mount here is one...
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Last post by dushyantsinh
Fri May 20, 2011 3:00 pm
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Aquiring A handgun License in India
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ishakmohd » Sat May 14, 2011 10:48 am
Hi all.
I am Ishak. I am a new member. I've got a keen interest on Guns from childhood itself. I am Indian currently working in another country. I...
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Last post by ishakmohd
Sat May 14, 2011 10:48 am
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airgun, pistol or handgun in indore
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bkarankar » Wed May 26, 2010 1:00 am
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Hi All,
i am looking for a Good Air Gun which does not required license.
first priority is => good for practice
Second is => good looking
Third =>...
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Hello can any one tell me the phone number and address of shooting range in Indore......
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Last post by drkacker
Mon May 09, 2011 1:42 pm
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Pedersen’s Forgotten Legacy
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m24 » Sun May 08, 2011 2:52 pm
Source: The Firearm Blog
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The Pedersen Automatic, or Remington model 51, found little favor in its life between the...
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Last post by m24
Sun May 08, 2011 2:52 pm
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Colt Cobra .38 Spl
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amit888_2000 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:42 pm
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here are the pictures I have promissed you......Guys believe me this is an unfired piece, wow
Special Thankx - to, Anupam (Olly) for taking such a...
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Winnie, Pl opine which one 32 Beretta OR Colt 38 super with Sl 24.... (1937). Price differences are not much. Both the offers are from friend circle...
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Last post by target shooter
Fri May 06, 2011 8:13 pm
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Ruger announces the SR1911
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xl_target » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:26 am
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Ruger has announced its newest pistol; the SR 1911 in .45 ACP, with a stainless slide and an investment cast frame.
It has a MSRP of $799
(Click...
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The price of the Ruger SR 1911 makes it appealing to me. There's absolutely no excuse for a 1911 copy to be less than rock-solid reliable: after all,...
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Last post by timmy
Thu May 05, 2011 1:46 am
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MY .32 LLAMA
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kushalchaudhary » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:52 pm
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I have purchased .32 LLAMA, Just Check out.
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Congratulations Mr Chaudhary...
Enjoy the piece...
Cheers,
Ajay
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Last post by ajayplahane
Tue May 03, 2011 11:53 pm
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H&R .32 five round handgun
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moodyjat » Mon May 02, 2011 1:55 pm
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hi all ,
i am a newbie here, found this site while browsing net for guns in India, and really appreciate it..
i have a 1905 made H&R USA made 5...
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my mistake.. posting now in a few mins ! :(
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Last post by moodyjat
Tue May 03, 2011 3:51 pm
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Luger pistol
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target shooter » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:36 pm
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Can somebody throw some light on luger pistols, are they not good enough?
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Recently seen a Luger look alike .22 pistol but in a very bad condition the dealer say i can test fire it.
He said Only 5.5 laak saar.When pointed...
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Last post by target shooter
Mon May 02, 2011 1:20 pm
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Tokarev TT.30 cal or Makarov .380?
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thebrowningeffect » Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:17 pm
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Dear IFGians,
Which of the two is a better option Tokarev TT .30 Cal or Makarov .380 considering all the factors like reliability, fire power, ammo...
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I don't know if it is available in India or not. If so, this would be a good self defense weapon -- not great, but good.
CZ 52 if available is...
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Last post by The Doc
Mon May 02, 2011 6:17 am
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My Other 1911 Toy in 22LR
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Baljit » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:09 am
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Hi, Guy's , i like to share with you guy's my other 1911 toy in 22LR , GSG { German Sport Guns } Made in Germany , it is very nice action , triger...
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thanks guy's
to_saptarshi, i have batter accuracy with CCI then other ammo.
Baljit
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Last post by Baljit
Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:02 pm
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Magpul FMG-9 - The Concept Weapon
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The Doc » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:37 pm
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Gentlemen,
Came across this cleverly designed firearm .The FMG stands for folding machine gun. What this is is basically a semi-automatic handgun (in...
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may foolish iof people see it and take a heed.....
amen
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Last post by indigo_indo
Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:43 pm
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ways to draw handgun
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nagarifle » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:10 pm
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what do people prefer?, when it comes to drawing your hand gun(no not a picture with a color pen, :D )
in general, there are two methods of drawing...
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Yes indeed... double tap at it's best... i too practice the same...
However, such fast draw can be seen in movies only... in between - after he...
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Last post by ssmickey.32
Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:07 pm
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pistol required pls help
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selwyn206366 » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:40 pm
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hi,
i have a pistol license issued, and now i need a .32 CZ pistol or llama pistol and also Wat will be the cost for .38 llama pistol, pls quote and...
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Hey guys, Is India has a rare guns? have anyone has a picture of it? I can see that India was the famous in producing a gun.
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Last post by kWhite
Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:42 am
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F.N.Browning 1911 and Lignose Einhand pistols
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SKB » Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:39 pm
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Hi everyone
I am a new member of this forum. I own a .380 F.N.Browning (Belgium) and my wife has .25 Lignose Einhand (german) pistol, I looking to...
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Simply marvelous. N ya really nice to learn that both u n ur better half own pistols. tc
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Last post by alfaromeo17
Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:16 pm
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Colt 357 Mag Lawman MK V or Walther PPK/S .32
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HydNawab » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:19 pm
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Hi Guys
A gun dealer in Hyderabad has recently offered me a trade in for a Walther PPK/S Nickel in .32 Calibre with a box and a spare magazine for...
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Angel on your right shoulder says keep it Devil on your left shoulder says keep it :agree:
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Last post by captrakshitsharma
Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:54 pm
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conceal-ability
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msbabbar » Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:25 am
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which is the best concealable weapon and which is easy to carry.
As it is the first prerequisite for a weapon kept for self defense.
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well I have both a .38 spl snubby Revolver & .32 Astra Pistol, I tried, both carrying on daily basis.
But Concealing a pistol is far easy & comfy...
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Last post by amit888_2000
Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:51 pm
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