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Darne Model 1892 Rotary Shotgun

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:46 pm
by Vikram
Darne sliding breech shotguns are widely known and popular. This is a less known design by the same maker. Fascinating design.



Re: Darne Model 1892 Rotary Shotgun

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:04 pm
by timmy
Wow, what an interesting shotgun! I've long admired Darnes of the sliding breech type, but I've never seen or read anything about this shotgun.

I very much like the unique action. It is compact and even though one expects trimness in a 20 gauge, this looks quite elegant and slender. The entire double lock mechanism being housed in the breech block is very ingenious and attractive. If I was a magnate of some sort, I'd have to have examples of both models made by Darne!

As someone who (like Ian McCollum) appreciates French design and engineering, I enjoyed watching this video immensely. Thanks for posting it here, Vikram!

Re: Darne Model 1892 Rotary Shotgun

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:01 am
by Vikram
Cheers, Tim.

Initially, I thought that the design was needlessly complex and time-consuming. However, that changed as I watched twice Ian operating it. Probably takes a fraction of a second more than the more traditional break-open design. I think I can live with that.

Re: Darne Model 1892 Rotary Shotgun

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:19 am
by timmy
Considering the metal that funs along side of the chamber area of a break open shotgun, it would seem that this rotating breech system would have some weight advantage over a conventional break open action. Also, it would tend to move the balance point to the rear a little bit. It would be fun to take a few practice swings with this gun.

Also, the wear point of a break open action is the pivot point. How this might be corrected by a better heat treatment or metallurgical composition, I don't know, but I wonder whether this Darne system would be more robust when it comes to wear.

Finally, the break open action does have a weak point, in that the upper edge of the breech is where the greatest stress from firing pressure occurs. "Doll's Head" and rotary bolt schemes (such as the LC Smith) have been used to offset this issue. I wonder whether this Darne action offers advantages in action strength.

It would be a fun thing to take such a gun to the range in a DS-21 or SM Citroën, for sure!